Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-60.242.201.121-20140626140506/@comment-162.212.127.190-20140713005825

DManCO wrote: 162.212.127.190 wrote: That's a really good point to think about. I hadn't considered that fight between them. Unless he was toying with him? Or because Scott had this "True Alpha Potential". I'm just grasping at straws at this point thought because that's a great point. I do stand by the fact I think Derek was trained to be an Alpha and all though. Just from what we know so far about Derek growing up. However, your argument has put a hole in how this is relevant in comparing him to Scott. Now, I have to disagree there. If anything, Derek has shown that he knows surprisingly little about being an Alpha. For example, he had to call in Peter, who is not even an Alpha anymore, to do a mind meld with Isaac because Derek himself didn't know how to do it. He also has not shown any indication of knowing how to change his shape.

Derek might have had more experience in fighting, if only becaue he grew up in a werewolf family and especially with his sister being only a year or two older than him, his childhood would have consisted of "play" where the use of super strength, speed and reflexes were normal. But his mother was their Alpha, and she was not very old. Laura was her successor (and apparently knew how to change shape). Derek probably never expected to ever become and Alpha and thus never learned the more advanced powers.

Back in the beginning, it was not Derek's goal to beat Scott to a pulp. Remember that he was trying to win him as an ally, and also needed him to become accustomed to being a werewolf (remember Derek and Stiles' hilarious reaction to Scott's first attempt to howl?). Giving Scott some slack probably seemed like a good idea. But Scott never seems to have really mastered the art of fighting at superhuman levels of ability. He's not fierce enough to handle opponents who know how to use their own abilities well. Another good point. It seems more plausible that he was just a better fighter from growing up a werewolf and "play". I would still think there was a degree of training there, but I agree he may not have been groomed to be an Alpha, just a good werewolf. So he would be lacking in using his Alpha abilities, but would still be better trained than Scott in combat. And the part about not killing Scott because he needed him actually makes perfect sense as to why Scott seemed to "hold his own" with him. And yes agreed, Scott just seems to lack the training and the aggressive instincts when it comes to fighting.