Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24744701-20160311092230/@comment-13895380-20160313032735

Jestermonkey4u wrote: No I'm pointing out your flawed logic based on your own statement.

Canon: we don't know why Deucalion being shot made him collapse in such obvious pain.

Your spec: It makes no sense because he's strong and blah, blah, etc.

My posts & the sentiment of others: Since a bullet by itself wouldn't normally be enough to cause such a reaction then MAYBE by applying deductive reasoning we can attribute his fall as having more than one cause such as the needle, electrocution and / or bullets that may or may not have some supernatural effiveness added.

Of course it's speculation but our reasoning actually uses canon to help explain, wherein yours is simply because he isn't a villain anymore so the plot is designed to make him weaker.

The point is we don't know the specifics but one way uses canon to draw a logical and reasonable conclusion and the other does not.
 * facepalm*

It's obvious why Deucalion was in pain. He got shot. What you just described is speculation, and poor speculation because there is no indication that he is still affected by such things -- only clear indication that he healed from them. So it is neither logical nor reasonable.

Dude, let me quote myself again: " "   And yes, there is no proof for that (besides Jeff's ideology that heroes should lose until the end) but it's just ironic that it happens right when we find out he's a good guy. lool It was just a funny moment, not that big a deal."

I simply pointed out the irony, as things like this do happen, but in no way am I saying that Deuc is going to be weak from now on because he's a hero.

Explanations using canon  that have little validity to the event doesn't make it better. Heroes get nerfed all the time. Scott did when he became an Alpha, as many people have recognized for a long time. When asked about this, Jeff has even said that believes that heroes shouldn't win that often or else it'd be boring. And there are a lot of power inconsistencies on this show and other shows. It happens -- not everything can be explained by canon. So you can't act like this is a new concept, not just to Teen Wolf, but to story writing in general.