Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-24565701-20140221023529/@comment-13965604-20140224221526

Grahamburglar wrote:

Derek allowed for the living shit to get beaten out of him on numerous times to save those he loved. He endured loss after loss after loss and even sacrificed himself to save Scott. Everything that's happening to Scott is being done in the periphery... Scott isn't working for any of it. This is why I have a fault with him as a character. The only time he's ever actively done ANYTHING was the complete out-of-the-blue switch-a-roo that happened in the 2nd season, and even then, he compromised Derek's autonomy to do it, forcing Derek to bite Gerard. Personally, I'd make the argument that Scott is one of the best villains on the series because nobody even realizes it. What the heck series are you watching? Your interpretation with events is so far afield from anything I've seen.

The first two seasons, Derek's got decent motives (most of the time) but his strategies are so far from being virtuous I can't imagine how you think he'd deserve being a True Alpha. Lying repeatedly. Assaulting Jackson. And, oh, what about killing a mortally wounded, totally defeated Peter even though Derek is under the belief that if Scott killed Peter he could stop being a werewolf (something Scott had made very clear he did not want to be). And that's ALL from season 1, let alone when he starts trying to build a pack of misfit teenagers fully aware of the fact that the Alpha pack is coming for him and decides it's not important to tell any of them. And then there's the teenagers he was totally willing to kill because he suspected they might be a lizard monster (and he at no point suspected said teenager was actually in control of their powers.)

I agree that the show has done a terrible job of making Scott the main character and that most things happen around him rather than because of his doing. I can see the argument that they haven't proved that he should be a True Alpha to us (I think the real problem here is that the writers chose not to expand 3a into the whole third season which I think they could have and it would have worked much better.) But at the same time there is literally no justifiable argument to the idea that Derek deserves to be a True Alpha.

Derek said that there was a rumor, that doesn't mean he believed it. He did manipulate Scott into helping him there, but what he did do, was keep a kid who was barely in control of himself from becoming an alpha. What do you think Scott would've been like if he had turned into an alpha at that point? Peter never would've stopped, so he had to die. There was no getting around it, not even counting the avenging Laura's death.

The alpha pack was originally coming for Jackson, not Derek, they had to change that last minute. He did tell them people would be after them though.

Wanting to kill the Kanima can't be held against him either. You've got to make tough choices to protect the greater good. Kill one teenager, or allow said teenager t kill 50 townspeople? Granted, he need to make sure he had the right person before any murdering happened, but it was the right choice.