Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4723271-20140716053249/@comment-19765459-20140716213258

Paul.rea wrote:

You are being purposely niave if you don't understand that telling a woman (or many men) that they "look their age" is an insult.

This time it is about Jeff - but you attack the writers and producers regularly.

Again you keep trying to change the topic from what you said - to why I called you up on what you said.

Why are you constantly negative about this show? And why do you think it's okay to hurl personal insults at real people? Those are the simple questions I'm trying to get to. We're talking about an actress cast in a role, not trying to get a date with Crystal Reed here! At least I'm not anyway! This may be new to you, but casting choices are also a common topic of debate among fans. And yes, that includes observations about whether or not they look the age of the character they are supposed to be playing! In fact, it is a widely-discussed topic, because teenage viewers (especially girls) often have very unrealistic expectations about their own appearances because the "teens" they see on TV are actually not teenagers and are more fully-developed physically. Girls with Bulimia because they think they should look like actresses in their twenties who have been on fitness regimens for years is an actual social issue!

Well, I've narrowed it to Jeff. After all, as I already pointed out, YOU were the one that said that all of this is HIS vision! So which is it? Is Jeff the God of TW and it is all driven by his vision? Or is it a collective of contributors? (Note: if you choose the second answer you invalidate your own lengthy arguments about creator's vision).

I have NOT changed the topic, you have. I'm being very direct in answering your points. You're shifting around trying to find fault because you have no counter-argument for my statements about Jeff.

1) I am NOT "constantly negative about the show". I post normal discussions on a lot of threads which have nothing to do with Jeff or insult the show, unless you count questioning the many unexplained things on the show.

2) However, how am I "hurling insults AT real people"? Have you called Jeff up to check if he even knows about me? Because otherwise your argument is not only invalid, it is laughable. We have entire "reality TV" shows where people tune in specifically to watch complete strangers get put down and humiliated (MTV has been a leading purveyor of this for decades now in fact). That's before you compare me with some professional media critics, who are often a LOT more vicious in trashing producers, directors and actors than I EVER am!

Again, your goal in life appears to be making sure that nobody talks smack about your boy Jeff Davis. If you are not him, are not a personal friend of his, or on his payroll, what business is it of yours whether other people like him or approve of his work? That is WAY beyond the remit of a Wiki moderator!