Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-14066471-20140114172238/@comment-13965604-20140117151958

Trent22 wrote: LadyX wrote:

DManCO wrote:

It is a negative feedback loop problem. Derek's chosen subjects for the Bite were far from being ideal candidates, and as I said, team loyalty was not really strong with the people he chose anyway. Boyd was almost chronically antisocial (he was generally rude, even when people tried to be friendly towards him). Erica was a social outcast, as was Isaac. All of them had emotional (and in Erica's case physical) problems. Lacking social skills himself, Derek never really had any hope of taking these kind of people and forging them into a cohesive group.

But in a fair-sized small city like Beacon Hills I have a hard time believing that they were the only option he could find. And he obviously did spend time scouting them out. You mention that Derek only met Danny once. But had he ever even met Boyd, Issac and Erica at all? Did he scrutinize the student body for kids who were obviously smart, tough or otherwise useful but possibly more mentally together? Just picking the lowest common denominator and choosing the most desperate people who might accept the Bite was stupid strategy. Peter did better purely by random selection!


 * gasp* oh my gosh, did you just compliment Scott? Lol. I haven't seen that from you yet. Or were you referring to Lydia?

I agree with you, Derek made bad, bad choices. And convincing teenagers to make themselves better, fast, stronger isn't that hard, he could even tell them about the risk associated with the Bite not taking and all most would hear was the good. Especially if he downplayed it a little. And most teenagers naturally have a pack mentality, we just tend to call them cliques, so finding overt followers isn't a real issue either.

Btw, has the show ever mentioned what the success rate of the bite is? A rough estimate or anything? Well so far the following people have been bitten/clawed:

Scott(Turned)

Jackson(Turned)

Lydia(Was immune and is now a banshee)

Erica(Turned )

Isaac(Turned)

Boyd(Turned)

So 5 out 6 which is 83.3 % of the time as of what has been shown of people being bitten or said.

What about

Alexander Argent (turned)

Victoria Argent (turned)

Gerard (presumedly would've turned if not for the mountain ash)

Paige (died)

Malia (turned) though I can understand some people not wanting to count her until we learn more about this whole werecoyote thing.

I feel like I'm missing someone, but I can't think of who. That gives us one person out of 11 that actually died from the bite. I don't think counting Lydia in the success/fail rate is fair, because immunity is neither success nor failure on the bites part, that's all her and immunity is supposed to be an oddity that doesn't happen often. I also feel like we need to assume Gerard would've turned because Scott took steps to make sure it didn't take, of course what does Scott know about likely hood of turning?