Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-25178327-20140223062459/@comment-122.173.188.234-20140324141859

IJacksonVan wrote: 122.173.219.53 wrote: I like Derek's alpha werewolf form the most.Who would like to fight as an animal or a strange blue colour demonic wolf who looks more of a demon than an animal(predator).The 50-50 werewolf human transformation works best as it enables hand to hand combat,enhanced strength and speed,using the human mind and not working on animal instincts(peter),getting the advantages of human and wolf at the same time.Moreover,to attain demon wolf status one has to slaughter his pack and kill a lots of betas.Ennis and Kali also killed their pack but they were not demon wolfs because u have to kill too many betas probably biting more humans and killing them as soon as they became wolves.No way one would want that.Talia hale wolf form was the last thing anyone would want because who wants to transform into a compete animal and the monsterous giant peter transformed looked good and i would want that but the problem arises that it displays the madness,pschotic mentallity of the character and the ugliness within.The peter i saw in season 2 and 3 was a very good one and not the one i saw in season 1.The alpha spark spoiled him and took his anger to new heights giving him the spark to transform more completely. Derek's alpha wolf is 60 animal 40 human and gives him a smart appearance plus he was way more stronger than peter indicating when he hit scott in season 2 episode ice pick.peter could not damage scott or derek like that in mere seconds.Talia hale was not more powerful(infact lesser when derek killed boyd) than derek but she could transform completely and control it.Only that.Only deucalion is the really strong character but Derek can defeat him in his alpha form because derek is more trained fighter.plus it is more difficult to wolf out completely into talia's wolf or deucalion(he only turned once).Laura could transform fully but she got killed by peter because it takes time to shift into an animal and peter just had a 10 second window to go for the neck which he did quickly with ease and subdued her and later killed her.Peter's alpha form only takes your anger to a new level and makes you lose control of what is right and wrong.Nothing else.Scott,Boyd,Issac look pathetic in their wolf form.Only derek(alpha and beta) and peter(beta form) look good in partially transformed features A LOT of what you're saying is very true and intersting, but you must understandthat Derek stands NO chance in hell against Deucalion. Saying he is a "more trained fighter" is false because we don't know IF he has trained at all. Also, Deucalion has already bean shown to rip Derek to shreds and destroyed Ennis' head with one head. In addition, Peter was never seen in his 50-50 wolf form in Season 2 AND Season 3, so that is VERY false. So A LOT of what you said is 100% false, including Laura being killed by Peter, that was BS Derek is a very strong and experienced werewolf.This is evident from the fact that he  can defeat all the teenage werewolves we have seen(scott,boyd,erica,cora,jackson,issac,ethan,aiden) in his beta form.He can also defeat peter.I mean this guy is really trained to control his wolf side.We have never seen him lose control and he told scott himself in season 1 that with enough training, a werewolf can learn to withstand pain and still be in his wolf form(because werewolves come back in human form after they are slashed really hard with claws).But Derek has always taken a hit(in case of Kali) and still managed to be in his wolf form.We all know Derek has trained himself to be a stronger and better fighter because he goes on teaching everyone how to fight like in season 2 when he was beating issac and erica,he was actually training them how to fight.Moreover his good muscular built says it all.Deucalion(old,skinny guy),Kali(some weak girl) and ennis(got muscles but derek is stronger) have had no reasons to train because they have been alphas(or special alphas) for a long time and could overcome everyone with their strength and quickness.Ethan and Aiden merged into one and formed a huge wolf otherwise we know that they are just like scott and the other teenage wolves we have seen(untrained and weak).Peter was in a coma for years,I doubt the least bit that he has anymore fighting skills than the teenagers.But derek lost everyone in his family(nearly).From a very young age he was forced to protect himself from hunters and other werewolves and he kept training so that he could survive.He was always angry and used it as an anchor to his wolf side.He was not part of any pack and we know that he lived away from his sister Laura becuase if they both were together then Laura would not have come alone to Beacon Hills to confront Peter.All I am saying is that Derek as an Alpha could damage deucalion because where deucalion got speed and strength,Derek would fight with his training and his regular alpha strength(with the power of 1 beta).He cannot defeat deucalion as a beta.Now coming to the next confusion of your,We have seen peter in his 50-50 form(season 3 episode 10)when he and scott fight with the merged twins.We saw his fangs and blue eyes and elongated ears and this is a close to 50-50 form because the twins and kali also transform themselves to this extent.Except for the hair from the cheeks and that deformed face everything is same and that we will consider this the 50-50 form because if they want they can get that hair and deformed face but they choose not to.Plus peter is a beta.A beta does not have the spark that allows him to transform into a complete wolf or the wolf peter transformed in season 1 no matter how angry they are.Like take for example Derek(or any alpha) was locked in the bank vault where the walls were made up of hecatolite,then on the third full moon he would transform into a season 1 peter like wolf.Only alphas have that extra surge of power which allows them to transform more than their average werewolf(beta).So u can  safely assume that peter can transform into a normal werewolf now.Peter could kill Laura only due to one reason because he had already transformed and Laura had not.We all know one thing from what we have kept watching is that a really angry out of control beta cannot be controlled well by an alpha in the alphas human form.An alpha has to transform into a wolf to stop the angry wolfed out beta.In laura's case she never knew peter,her own uncle would attack her and try to kill her and before she could spend that 10 seconds in transforming into that complete wolf peter went for the neck and slashed her.It takes time for a wolf to turn completely.If it were a normal alpha then that alpha would transform quicker into 50-50 and stop the beta.