Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4295751-20150811205600/@comment-13965604-20150814222810

I know Kate was an adult because I can do basic math and have minor Google-fu. Kate was 28 when she died in 2011 according to her gravestone, subtract the six years since the fire and that puts her at 22 when that happened. Derek's ID from s1 put him at 23, subtract six from 23 and that gives you 17. No matter what happened between them, he was a minor and she was not, and there is a certainly level of manipulation in their relationship no matter how you slice it. Depending on the time of year, he could've even been 16 since his birthday is in November and I can't recall any mention of the date the fire happened, and it's not in the paperwork.

And don't bother with the "it's a fake ID" of course it's fake, his eyes didn't flare, but we have no reason to think the info was also fake.