Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4723271-20140716053249/@comment-6383956-20141225020432

So, you would say that Teen Wolf should have been put front and center like that for two secondary LGBT characters (and minor recurring character Caitlin, I'll give them that) over Faking It which has two LGBT characters as main characters, one of whom drives the primary plot? Because Teen Wolf got a lengthy paragraph unto itself as the first one on MTV's list, and Faking It got to be on MTV's second page, buried by a picture from Wait Til Next Year. That's only because Teen Wolf aired more episodes featuring Danny and Ethan than Faking It had episodes at all. The GLAAD Report is not without it's flaws, that doesn't mean that things it *does* measure aren't accurate and aren't important. But you really do need to keep in mind when you read it and when you talk about it that, though what it does it does well, what it doesn't do is kind of a lot.

As for my repeated mentions about what the GLAAD Report is talking about when it says "quality", that's directly in response to you. When other users here spoke about how they felt Mason was a stereotype (reminder: Mason is not factored into this GLAAD Report at all -- he will be in the next one) or other problems they have with Danny/Ethan/Mason and how they were written, you argued that Teen Wolf does a -- direct quote here -- "pretty damn good job". The only source you've had for that is the GLAAD Report. Which doesn't measure what those users are complaining about, so it's a completely irrelevant piece of information in terms of those complaints. (Or praises since largely the discussion which sparked that was "Danny was a positive role model and Mason is too horny!")

So, you're misunderstanding me because:

A) You can't figure out that I'm being objective. I'm just talking about what the GLAAD Report does and doesn't do, and -- factually -- why MTV and Teen Wolf got the rating that they did.

B) You still can't figure out that I'm able to speak for the folk concerned about these issues a lot better than you are. I'm more educated on this (clearly) and, yes, I'm one of them.

Like, we're not even really completely disagreeing here (that throws me too, don't worry :P) I just understand th GLAAD Report light years better than you. It IS the only group and the only report that objectively measures LGBT representation on TV, but it only goes so far in doing so. Those limitations have to be factored in to any discussion you want to use it in.