Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-26674650-20150814215437/@comment-13895380-20150817023249

Paul.rea wrote: Yet he did many things, internally, to destabilize and misdirect Scott that the Doctors were not in a position to do.

He pointed Scott to Valack at Eichen House so that they would all read the book and (BONUS) get the Dread Doctors in to see Valack.

His allowing Malia to drive prompted her flashback.

He manipulated Donovan to attack Stiles which could have resulted in Stiles' death, Donovan's death or a protracted search for Donovan. All major distractions for Scott. As it turned out, it left Stiles vulnerable and further destabilized trust within the pack.

He undermined Scott's trust in Kira.

He "saved" Hayden and Liam from the DD further undermining Scott with the rest of the pack.

He's kept Scott running around in circles (literally in Ouroboros) while the Dread Doctors do their thing.

The majority of experiments in science and other fields fail. It means you're doing science right if you try stuff that doesn't work and keep trying. A lot of those are true, but some don't directly affect Scott, or Theo was not the direct cause of them.

- Yes, Theo helped them take the bait...but what Valack said was also true. Kira read the book and remembered what happened to her. But I accept this as a good point for Theo.

- How do you know for sure that he let Malia drive with the intention of her getting a flashback? You're saying he did this on purpose? I don't think you can confirm that. It also still doesn't directly affect Scott. Malia hasn't even said anything to Scott about it yet, so it wasn't an effective distraction for Scott.

- Nothing with Donovan and Stiles was a major distraction for Scott. Stiles literally still hasn't said a word about it to Scott. Yes, it affected Stiles but no, it did not result in a major distraction for Scott.

- Yes, Theo did help to get Scott to lose trust in Kira...but Scott already knew something was different with her. I mean, she told him to look at her with his werewolf eyes before Theo even said anything (if I remember correctly). Even if it was afterwords Theo talked to Scott, she didn't ask Scott to look at her because of Theo. She did it because she was concerned with how she was acting. What I'm saying is that Scott's lack of trust in Kira resulted in the Dread Doctors experimenting on her and thus changing her behaviour. It would have happened with or without Theo, and Scott already noticed this difference without Theo's help.

- Well, let's put it this way: if Theo didn't save Liam and Hayden, Scott would still be looking for them, which would have provided a bigger distraction for Scott. I think that actually helped Scott more than it hurt him. If Theo didn't find Liam and Hayden, that would have undermined Scott (the Alpha - the leader) from the rest of the pack even more.

- True, but all that didn't matter when Theo saved Liam and Hayden himself. I'm actually sure that's still a valid clue. I think the ouroboros symbol probably unlocked a hidden passage to where the Dread Doctors actually are. The alternative was to tell Scott nothing, in which Scott still wouldn't have found Liam and Hayden. He still would be looking for them (bigger distraction), so it's not like Scott would have spoiled the Dread Doctors' plan anyways.

So all in all, I still think there wasn't much Theo did that the Dread Doctors couldn't have already done. A lot of what Theo has done has actually helped the pack -- put them in better situations than before. I think the Dread Doctors put the pack in compromising situations to help make Theo look good. Cause I don't think the Dread Doctors would be happy with Theo taking away Hayden and Liam if they weren't okay with it.

Yeah, I get it. It was more like a joke -- not to be taken seriously. :D I agree, many scientific experiments result in failures, but then again, the Dread Doctors aren't scientists -- they're doctors, and doctors aren't supposed to and don't fail at surgeries in general. That was the basis of the joke. #LameJoke #Sorry