Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-14066471-20140114172238/@comment-10280603-20140116164747

LadyX wrote:

DManCO wrote:

Bigwolfonbase wrote: LadyX wrote: I'm still confused about how you can be an Alpha if you have no subordinates. Being an alpha doesnt require any subordinates. Its just that extra spark of power that makes them stronger and allows them to turn other people. Everything is pretty up in the air except for that part because we've seen alphas without packs. Derek wasn't going for being an alpha when he was turning kids. He was already an alpha. He was trying to form a pack which makes him and them stronger. Though we never see anyone actually being stronger. Just like when he killed boyd we never saw him get considerably stronger lame. Derek could have been a little choosier if he wanted Betas that actually would have formed a strong, effective, pack. He should have gone for Stiles, which would have guaranteed Scott followed along, and probably Danny (you can never have too many teen geniuses, and Lydia was immune).

But the needing three Betas to be stronger still seems like discontinuity, since Derek did not really seem any stronger than Peter at any point, even when he had Isaac, Boyd and Erica (or Cora) as compared to Peter (who only, kind of, had Scott) or most of the Alpha Pack (who had none). Agreed on the Stiles thing, but I just tell myself that he wouldn't turn someone without permission and he assumed Stiles would say no because of his ties with Scott, and/or he knew about Peter asking and him already saying no. That last one is doubtful though.

This whole spark of power thing is so ridiculous, I know they had to add it for the whole 'true alpha' thing to make any sense at all, but it's still stupid. It would make more sense for the willing submission and loyalty of betas to form that spark, the more betas the stronger it is (which would make Derek's comment of needing three make sense, there could be a minimum needed for the spark to form or stay) The ability to steal that loyalty and submission jives with real wolf packs, whoever defeats the alpha takes over as alpha. But if they did that, True Alphas couldn't exist, because everyone would have the ability to become one, and it wouldn't be rare.

On a side note, if what Derek said were true, where is Laura's third beta? She had Derek, I suppose you could say she had Peter even if they were on the other side of the country and he was comatose, but where is her mysterious third? They can't count Cora because no one knew she was alive so they would've at the very least thought they needed another one, even if Cora never joined another pack. So who and where are they? Unless the whole Three thing is just a load they made up on the fly. Which it seems like between the Alpha Pack and Peter's actions. Like i said you don't need any betas to be an Alpha. Your right about wolves being able to kill each other in real wolf packs. Which is the way we've seen it so far before Scott. Peter stole Lauras and Derek stole Peters. Scotts "true wolf" is basically the equilvalent of when a lone wolf becomes an alpha just by being stronger and other wolves coming to respect that strength. This to is apart of normal wolves as sometimes betas break away from packs to form their own packs. Laura didn't need a third wolf for anything becuase she wasn't trying to make a pack and with everyone ones theory being that some how when laura died than derek some how magical became his beta with out him knowing then technical speaking Cora would have to still be counted as a member of their pack I don't believe either by the way.