Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-207.254.224.12-20140717193212/@comment-13965604-20140718035916

Paul.rea wrote: LadyX wrote:

Paul.rea wrote:

LadyX wrote: Paul, he has answered 'by what measure?' The measure is based on Scott himself from previous seasons. How so?

Because as a Beta he took on two inexperienced nonathletic betas on ice? I don't know, I'm not them. But you kept asking, and they answered their answer. I don't know how they're qualifying it.

But yes. That's a decent comparison, he took care of two new betas as as omega, but he can't handle one new beta, even one charged by the first full moon, as an Alpha. And it's fair to compare him to Derek in this situation too, because Derek managed to hold off two moon starved betas, which were at least evenly feral as a brand spanking new beta, if not more so. He didn't beat them though - he just stood there and took it and then the sun came up and saved him from having to fight them.

There was no fight - he just took the punishment like the martyr he is.

But we have a direct comparison between Derek v. Erica and Scott v. Liam.

Both new werewolves on their first full moon - again Derek was trying to contain - not beat down.

Scott did the same exact thing - he didn't try to beat down Liam he tried to hold him.

Derek had the confined quarters of a subway car - Scott picked cheap chains and a wooden post.

But their actions and the outcomes were identical.

Derek held two. Scott couldn't even hold on to one. I'm not even talking about winning a fight on this comparison. I'm strictly talking Alpha werewolf strength. He was strong enough to keep holding them both as an alpha. Scott happened to get knocked on his rear in his containment attempt.