Talk:Derek Hale/@comment-174.54.176.189-20121107020717

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so I see sterek shippers are already saying that Stiles should move on from Lydia to you guessed it…Derek.

Because that would make so much sense.

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Plot twist: The teen wolf fandom stops trying to make everything about sterek

- I’d love for stiles to be bi but I don’t think those people know what canon meansThe “proof” I keep hearing is subjective. With the “proof” they use for Stiles, you could also say that Scott’s bisexual as well. Or even Jackson.

They’re unwilling to take the shipping goggles off and look at the tone of the show. For one, those kinds of storylines doesn’t have a place in Teen Wolf. It seems as though Glee and Skins and PLL have given these fans the idea that because it’s a teen show with LGBT characts, that automatically means that it is equipped to handle sexual identity plots and coming out scenes. It’s not! Jeff Davis has said that Teen Wolf is not going to do those stories, which is why he made Beacon Hills a utopia with “no racism, sexism, or homophobia.” There are other shows that are better suited to tell those stories.

And if they made Stiles bisexual now, it’d look like cheap pandering to the fangirls after all the harassment he’s received from Sterek shippers. If a character’s sexuality is “revealed” or changed because of the desires of the fans, then just how much agency does that character have? How much agency does the storyteller have in the story they are trying to tell? There’s a big difference between asking a storyteller to consider adding more minority characters and demanding that your favorite character be bisexual because of whatever reason (visibility, shipping, etc).

I’d rather Jeff write either a new character to give them the full agency that they deserve, or make it Boyd or Isaac whose sexuality is a blank slate so that there’s no arguing about it.



 Dear fellow Sterek Shippers,

No one should shame you for liking things rough.

No one should shame you for liking things REALLY ROUGH.

HOWEVER, the non-consensual violence that happens between Derek and Stiles is just that: NON-CONSENSUAL.

They didn’t agree upon this beforehand. They aren’t listening to each other. They don’t have any kind of safeword.

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