Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-25123326-20140708033021/@comment-13965604-20140711180351

BenMeOver wrote: Honestly, I think both of you are right.

It's VERY important for creators/writers to stay driven and keep the show as close to the original vision as possible, but some changes are necessary and fans are the best way to realize what you need to change.

One example is Arrow, an amazing show- albeit very underrated, IMO. One of the show's main characters is a young woman who has grown and will continue to grow into a strong hero by the show's end. However, after the first season, most fans found the character very "annoying" and "weak". So, instead of putting the character in the spotlight or getting rid of her entirely (vision vs. fans), the creators kept the character and her evolution as a big part of the show, but also put her in the back seat in favor of more fan-favorite characters- and Arrow was all the better for it.

Teen Wolf did do that somewhat in the first few seasons. The show still revolves around Scott embracing his role as a True Alpha, but obviously focus also shifted onto his original "supporting" characters- Stiles, Lydia, and Allison, and fans got to see move of their favorite dork and other characters they wanted to see

However, I think one of the most defining things about Teen Wolf is how each season (3B and 4 especially), we're thrown all these mysteries and new things in the beginning and have to watch episode by episode to see the puzzle connect. So obviously the more impatient fans aren't happy with these jumbled pieces, but if they do stick around, they'll see the show has stayed great all along. The only difference is these puzzle pieces are a lot newer (new characters, new creatures, etc) while in the last seasons, we were in more familiar territory. So just wait for the mysteries to be cleared and I'm sure you'll be happier ;)

And about fans not getting huge things they want- like Sterek, Danny, etc. I have a feeling the writers are either trying to calm the storm (you can only give so many small Sterek moments before fans start demanding bigger things) or are saving the storylines for bigger moments (Liam's friend is going to be gay, right? That's another romantic interest for Danny right away, and a chance for him to get more involved in the wolf world)

For the most part I get what you're saying, and I would've fully agreed in s2, and maybe 3a, but there are a lot of things that never get explained well at all. By this point, s4 (basically s5) we should know far more about the dynamics of a pack than we do, we should have some idea how werewolves age and how old Peter and Derek are. After nearly a season and a half we should understand True Alphas to some degree. The nature of tv shows means they don't have all the time in the world to get to this stuff. And that's not even touching on story lines they appear to introduce and then change their mind about, with no explanation.

I disagree that Danny is a huge thing to ask for. Sterek, yes, More Danny, not so much. And you can't deny that there was a noticable lack of Danny in this episode. This was the episode to expect to see him if there ever was one. It was lacrosse try out. Finstock repeatedly said all positions were available then put Liam in the goalie position. That's definitely less Danny, not more. And it's a little offensive to assume the new gay kid and the old gay kid will automatically be together. And a bit presumptuous to assume he's going to be more than a red shirt.

@Nameless Wiki Contributor: the thing is, what most of the fans want is for there to be more consistency. That's the biggie that they're ignoring. If there were consistency most would stop complaining about the little things