Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-25230571-20150731101948/@comment-26601629-20150817150043

NervousShipper wrote: There was never an actual grim in HP as far as I recall. The closest we got was the fraud Trawlenay's fake premonition of Sirius Black.

Incedentally, it's always been my theory that the reason the Potters didn't make Albus their secret keeper is because Albus needed Harry to have Lily's love protection, since they got to Neville's parents first. (who probably got tortured because Albus didn't need to protect them, Snape wasn't in love with Mrs. Longbottom) lol, funny. But you're wrong. I thought the reason was given in the book, Dumbledore said he offered to be the secret keeper but the potters rejected because of the unwavering trust in sirius's loyalty to them, it was only changed last minute (and only the potters and sirius knew) to pettigrew, because i think even albus thought it was sirius till the end (he might have suspected otherwise, given that albus is nigh omniscient, even lupin didnt know).

Neville parents weren't torutued before but after Voldemort had falled, dumbledore said Voldemort chose of the two boys, because harry was a half blood like himself. meaning both were still in contention. Only after voldemort had fallen did bellatrix torture neville's parents.