Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-207.254.224.12-20140717193212/@comment-13965604-20140718013422

DManCO wrote: Paul.rea wrote: I think these folks are simply pointing to the fact that we've not seen a single STRONG ALPHA that wasn't juiced on the death of his betas (Alpha Pack).

So how do you judge?

Peter. He did not have any Betas besides Scott. But he was pretty darned powerful, and not long after he stole the Spark from his niece Laura.

The whole Betas-as-a-power-source thing was one of the plot holes I complain so much about though, because it made no sense. Alphas can create Betas pretty much at-will was far as we can tell. Just keep Biting people. So if an Alpha could permanently (or even temporarily) increase their power by killing their Betas, it would have made sense for the members of the Alpha Pack to just keeping Biting and killing. It would be an endlessly escalating progression. The logic behind it was clearly broken.

Also, not reflected in any character except Deucalion. Kali was a better fighter than Derek, but because of her skill, not because she was physically more powerful than him. Ennis seemed, at best, equal to Derek. The twins were super-tough more because of their power to merge (which they had before becoming Alphas) rather than being vastly superior either. It left me wondering if the Beta-killing thing really increased their powers, or just produced some kind of rush that made them think they were more powerful. Because other than Deucalion, the Alpha Pack were just a bunch of pumped up Betas who did not seem to match Peter's S1 abilities.

When Deucalion killed Ennis, it left me wondering if his "demon wolf" powers were actually the result of killing Alphas. After experiencing the rush he got from killing Betas, maybe he decided to see what killing an Alpha might do for him? It is the only explanation that I can think of for why he, alone out of the Alpha Pack, had exceptional powers.

Thank you! Even before the Ennis thing, it bugged me thinking 'why would these alphas, who know Deucalion has no qualms about killing his subordinates because it gives him more power, keep hanging out around the dude that kills his subordinates to get more power? He was clearly the Alpha of the Alpha Pack. The AlphAlpha, if you will. I'd be pretty leery that he'd turn around and at least try it on me too. And then Ennis happened, and I figured 'ha! I was right.' It might not have been outright stated that's what happened, but I think it was.