Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-5405024-20130820234137/@comment-14168656-20130826203131

PrimeEra wrote:

Darkfairytales623 wrote:

I am going to just point out, that when Talia was meeting with the other alpha's in "Visionary" she told Deucalion that it was Ennis' right for revenge. So you might be on to something as far as she was not the as moral...black and white...as I recall, she stated that they, meaning werewolves had thousands of years of tradition just as the Hunters.

I know it is pure speculation, but I can't wait to see more of their history. The flashbacks of visonary werent not 100 percent true btw jeff made that clear

I posted this in another thread where you said the Flashback wasn't necessarily true. This idea needs to be corrected, so I'm posting it here too so people see it. What Davis made clear is that information was left OUT of the Flashbacks and the viewer should not assume that they have “ALL of the truth.” I don’t know where this idea that the Flashback could have misinformation in them came from. Davis did NOT say this in the Q&A. This is a misinterpretation. Please re-watch visionary. The two storytellers DID lie. But the Flashback IS NOT (I repeat NOT) the visual representation of the stories told. The Flashback was NOT told by Peter & Gerard. The Flashback actually CONTRADICTS the lies that Peter and Gerard told on several points so the viewer knows that they both changed the story.

Peter’s story (The truth from the Flashback in parentheses):

 1)        Peter was NOT Derek’s best friend and confident (Derek threatened to have him banned from school grounds).

 2)        Derek did NOT give Peter details about his relationship with Paige (Peter stalked them and saw it for himself).

 3)        It was NOT Derek’s idea for Paige to get the bite (It was Peter’s idea).

 4)        Peter did NOT view the death of Ennis’ Beta as a loss (He saw it as an opportunity).

Gerard’s story (The truth from the Flashback in parentheses):

 1)        Deucalion did NOT set up a meeting to try to ambush Gerard (Deuc wanted to make peace and prevent a war).

 2)        Deuc and his Betas did NOT attack Gerard (Gerard struck first and even killed some hunters).



Like I said, please re-watch the episode and then re-read Davis response to the Q&A in context:

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;">'''<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Q. '''<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> Here's a question for Jeff: during visionary, the audience could see the truth of what happened in the flashbacks versus the lies that peter and Gerard were telling the teenagers. Should we then assume that we know everything about the stories that there is to know, or should we be suspicious that there are more details to the memories that were left out and have yet to be revealed?

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">A <span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">. I wouldn't assume that you actually saw all of the truth.

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Look at how the question was worded and the response. The person asking the question was clear on the stylistic device the writers used with the Flashback. It was a CONTRAST. They understood the Flashback was true. That was NOT the question. The point is clear. Although the Flashback was true, we CANNOT assume we say everything. Davis was NOT saying we couldn’t trust the Flashback.