Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-26601629-20150721193153/@comment-13895380-20150819215524

T Angelus Ballack wrote: AlphaOfAlphas wrote: T Angelus Ballack wrote: It'll prolly be impossible to keep them down that long. I vote them placing a call to Oliver Queen on Arrow or Selene from Underworld to come and clean up shop. I think Arrow would lose to the Dread Doctors. Heck, Selene probably would too. It doesn't seem like anything hurts them. They are fast and very powerful. It seems impossible to sneak attack them. Most importantly, they can just induce hallucinations in them. That is so OP. I don't know the specifics of how this work (mostly because the show has barely given us information about anything), but they can make some people not even notice they are there, making them the ultimate assassin.

But Batman would beat them. Because he's Batman. Nah Oliver would take out any werewolf on teen wolf H2H(except deucalion) even before his training with Ra's, and he'll take out deucalion if he gets to use his equiment. Arrow held his own against Mirakuru Slade(Deathstroke) who will destroy the dread doctors in a heartbeat. Fighting level on arrow is completely different tha teen wolf. We've seen normal humans on teen wolf hold their own against weres, Arrow lolstomps. With his equipmenmt his DC goes as high as Large Building Level, and no-one on teen wolf has close to that level of durability.

Do not use the weres > than humans, and arrow human there weres are greater than arrow argument, because they do not belong to the same universe so rules does not auto transfer to respective universes.

lol selene would lose? she'd take on the TW universe all together and she'd curbstomp them. according to the internet, Selene (pre-Awakening feats) takes project Alice (with her powers), and Alice has taken on worse than the dread doctors.

Inducing hallucination is the only thing the dread doctors have, against arrow, he always has a cure on hand(magic herbs), he took on several armed men while injected with a ridiculously high dose of vertigo. His mind is super disciplined, especially now. After the league's training even brainwashing doesnt work on him. Anyone can beat a werewolf on Teen Wolf. That's actually not big a deal. Hunters do it all the time. Deucalion would easily kill Arrow, just by speed alone. Deucalion literally moved in a blur. That was clearly only a glimpse of how strong Deucalion really is. Don't forget that the average werewolf can catch an arrow lol. Arrow got his ass kicked by Mirakuru Slade. He's lucky he survived the first time. Also funny how he beat Slade at the end of season 2, but Slade kicked Arrow and Theo's ass in season 3. Just saying. :P Arrow literally can't fight THREE people who are much stronger than him, faster than him, and have weapons that could kill him. Just look at last episode-- Scott and Liam punch way harder than Arrow, and they couldn't even hurt the DD. Arrow is much more skilled than them and has weapons, but which of them could affect the DD?

I mean, come on. At this point, Flash definitely can beat Arrow. If you looked at the Flash, Arrow and Firestorm vs Reverse-Flash fight, Reverse-Flash could have killed Arrow in a...flash (lol) but for some reason he decides to slowly move his hand towards Arrow's heart instead of straight-up killing him. You know why? Cause Arrow is the main character on his own show and couldn't die. He would have been dead if he wasn't significant. Same thing would happen with the DD. So far, we don't have any weaknesses for them, and physical damage inflicted on them so far doesn't seem to hurt them.

" Do not use the weres > than humans, and arrow human there weres are greater than arrow argument, because they do not belong to the same universe so rules does not auto transfer to respective universes."

''Seriously??? Who suggested that??? It's actually kind of offensive that you think one of us would make such a simplistic argument, especially since this long post of yours is essentially saying "Arrow would destroy DD and Selene would curbstomp them" without providing any evidence to say that...(besides your last paragraph)''

''The fact of the matter is, vertigo is not the same as the DD's hallucinations. You can't say that since there is a medicine that works on one drug (e.g. let's say vertigo), it'll work on the DD's halucinations as well. You know why? Cause if the DD was just using a simple drug, it wouldn't even work on Scott and Malia, cause we know that normal humanly drugs don't work on them due to their healing factors. You also can't say that Arrow magically has a cure for everything, especially saying that it'll also magically be ON HIM in his time of need. That's literally deus ex machina. Compare the effects of vertigo to what happened to Scott, Malia and Lydia. Arrow could still fight with vertigo. Some vertigo just made others look different (e.g. like someone they fear). Meanwhile, Scott and the pack were literally on the floor, incapacitated...IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. The thing is, having a super disciplined mind doesn't mean that he'll be immune to it too. The dread doctors actually have control over electromagnetic properties. Arrow wouldn't even have a choice. ''

''Nothing suggests that their hallucinations wouldn't work on Selene either. Their hallucinations would render her defenseless, and she'd die. At least she'd have a much better chance than Arrow. I'm a huge Arrow fan, and even I can say that Arrow would lose to DD, just off of what we've seen. ''