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DManCO wrote: BrandonRose1992 wrote: DManCO wrote: Actually, when you really stop to think about it, Stiles is already way more useful to Scott than "Dr Cryptic". Also, we're still waiting for Deaton to prove that he is special in any way other than his extensive knowledge of paranormal botany. That's the thing, we don't actually know much about an Emissary's actual abilities. We know they are supposed to advise the packswith their knowledge but we don't know much about their actual powers. We don't know how much Jennifer could already do and how much was the result of the sacrifices she performed. Heck, the way the Alpha pack spoke about what she was doing we don't actually know if the sacrifices actually made her more powerful or if she was just delusional. At the very least we know that the glamour of her appearance and controlling animals and insects is something she could do before she ever performed a sacrifice. And Deaton having a knowledge of herbs is to be expected as the Druids work very much with nature and the natural order. And as for the "Dr.Cryptic" thing, that too is very much in line with the actual historical Druids. They were a very secretive and cryptic order, only those in their ranks could know the knowledge they possesed and they never shared of it freely. They didn't even write any of it down, it was all orally transmitted. I get the sense that Deaton doen't want anything to do with the supernatural world anymore. Talia was his friend and I think he feels like he failed in his duties to the Hale pack. But you are right, Stiles has been way more useful overall, but that's why I would like for him to offically be the Emissary to Scott's Alpha, but to do that legitimately he would need all of Deaton's secret knowledge. No, we don't. For example, the whole backstory for druids and werewolves was that druids knew how to shapeshift and thus were able to help werewolves control their own shifting. Except no druid we have seen has demonstrated shapeshifting powers, even in life-or-death situations. Even Jennifer was using Glamour to hide her true form because she could not actually change it.

We also know that it was not just the Nemeton, but the telluric currents generally that were fueling Jennifer's powers. So what she could do entirely on her own, without the Nemeton, the currents or the sacrifices, is unclear at best. This goes double for Deaton (who nearly ended up being a sacrifice himself) and Morrell (skewered by Deucalion, who realized that a werewolf can throw things through a Mountain Ash circle. Neither of them seemed to be able to interfere with Jennifer's magic, which means one of two things: a) they couldn't draw upon the necessary power from the currents while Jennifer was plugged into them, or b) they are amoral as Hell and just did not care to challenge another druid directly, instead preferring to get werewolves to do the dirty work.

Now, Stiles has managed to do some probability-twisting stuff already. He was able to complete the Mountain Ash circle around the rave, even though he didn't actually have enough Ash until he really thought about it. In the lacrosse final, once he got himself focused he suddenly became an unstoppable scoring machine. Then there was the time Ethan tried to cut himself in half with a circular saw. Initially the door to the room was locked, so they could not check inside. Then they heard the saw power up and suddenly Stiles was able to open the locked door without even thinking about it.

So, how far is Stiles from being more useful as Deaton or Morrell? Actually, he's already there. He could certainly use more occult knowledge. But druids might not be the only source. For example, Chris Argent had considerable knowledge of druidic lore, to an extent that seemed to surprise even Gerard.

True. I get the feeling that the sacrifices were only necessary to restore the Nematon. If it was a giant, healthy Oak tree instead of a stump and a shriveling root system things might have played out differently. I also get the feeling that all of the druids are at least capable of tapping into the currents, Stiles especially now that he's connected to the nemeton in a way that even Jennifer wasn't. As far as Stiles sort of accidentally doing probability twisting stuff, imagine if someone were to give him the guidance to actively use it. Maybe some druids are naturally more gifted than others? I mean, Deaton describes Stiles as having a 'Spark' which seems to be similar to what gives the wolves their power, but I was never really clear on whether Stiles was special, that he was a rarity, or if any human could do it and he just happened to be the only human in the know willing to lay down a line of mountain ash. As for them being amoral, I guess sort of. But I get the feeling that it has more to do with them having their own rules and restrictions they have to abide by being druids that limits them in the assistance they can give, or at least the way they give it. They were lurking around in the shadows at the end of season 2 after the showdown with Gerard. And let's be honest, Scott had almost nothing to do with the mountain ash pills. That was all Deaton.