Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-14066471-20140114172238/@comment-13965604-20140116174252

DManCO wrote: Yeah, but let's face it, Derek gets his *** handed to him so often that it has become a running a joke. Recappers treat it as a given and a LOT of people got a laugh out it when Derek asked what made Peter, Cora, Ethan and Lydia think he was going to lose his fight with Kali (as a Beta!).

Again, story continuity is a problem here as well. At the end of season two it was indicated that Derek was in a hurry to amass a pack because he knew the Alphas were coming. Okay, fine. Except then what possible benefit does he get from choosing weak-willed and/or emotionally-disturbed teenage Betas? Derek himself is a bit iffy in a fight! Does anyone here seriously think that Isaac, Boyd and Erica were going to be anything other than dog food for Kali, Ennis, Aiden and Ethan? They did not even have a numerical advantage, much less one of strength, intelligence, skill or cunning!

A little time spent trawling the halls of BHHS (since he and every other strange adult/animal/monster can seemingly roam around the place at will) would have turned up some better candidates. Again, start by scrutinizing the lacrosse team and the close associates of the people you already know (would have led him straight to Danny). Unless you're a Sterek shipper, there would not be much more morally dubious about Derek just up and biting Stiles than there was to him targeting a girl recovering from an epileptic seizure in hospital (her ability to give informed consent being dubious under the circumstances) or a victim of child abuse who had just been dumped into an open grave by an unseen monster.

He could have gotten some better quality Betas.

I'm not too disappointed by the choice of Boyd, he looks like the strong silent type, and his only issues are his family is poor, and he doesn't have friends. He could definitely have been trained up well, and possibly quickly. I also get the initial thought of Isaac, grave digging is hard work, but not particularly skilled, or indicative of any deeper talent. But when he found out about the emotional issues he should've been out. Unless all he wanted was a cowering little yes man who would follow orders and not ask questions for fear of injury. Which doesn't coincide with what he claimed to be looking for. And don't even get me started on Erica. First of all, she's a girl (not that we can't be badass) secondly, she had been sick her entire life and Derek isn't exactly an expert on how turning ill people works; werewolfism might have made her brain misfire even worse than it already did, the brain is not something to be messed with and it seems like her chances of survival would be significantly lower. Thirdly, partly because of her lifelong illness in addition to everything we saw of her, there was no indication that she ever had any sort of fight or self defense training to even give her than leg up. She was a stubborn lady, but that, to me, would indicate she might be a problem once she turned.