Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-25222572-20150608135325/@comment-71.236.1.182-20150618171335

LadyX wrote: 71.236.1.182 wrote: JEK wrote: @Sean

Well, a couple of things.

He wasn't suspicious of Matt because he thought he we was too good-looking, something about the guy just rubbed him the wrong way. He had no idea why he got such a bad feeling about him, so he just tossed out random reasons, like he looked weird, ro some nonsense like that.

I wouldn't call Peter "pure evil". Gerard was a total psychopath, who didn't give a crap about his family, and was just looking for an excuse to go after Derek to turn himself into a werewolf/Alpha. Peter, on the other hand, seems to only care about one thing in the entire world apart from himself: his family. His entire arc in S1 was seeking vengeance for what had been done to him and the only one's that mattered to him. What he actually did was fairly justifiable, truth be told (if you take out the giant wolf monster parts........). And everything else that he does...........well, it's because he's selfish and arrogant/narcissistic/ insanely proud of his family's name/legacy. That's why he moved on Scott; he saw him as unworthy. I'd say all of that makes him a fairly terrible person, but I wouldn't call him evil. Just selfish.

And Scott ONE HUNDRED PERCENT has problems with killing people. His entire arc since S2 has focused around him being afraid to do that, believing that it'll make him a monster. Hell, they gave us a peek into his conflicted subconscious in S4, whilst he was "dead", and that showed very clearly how much the whole idea affected him. He was desperately trying to convince himself that he didn't need to become a killer (because he associated that as being the same thing as a monster), yet he seemed confused, and couldn't quite seem to grasp his own logic. Honestly, for quite a bit of that season, he seemed to be looking for a reason he could understand that justified killing; like in that conversation with his father, following the shooting at the school. He's not at a point yet where he's accepted that it's sometimes necessary. He'll get there I think, but as of right now he's still terrified of it (which is perfectly understandable, if  more than a little annoying at times). Meaning those threats to Duke and others? Completely impotent, and we all knew it. And so did the people he was threatening, most likely....... The way he brought up Matt's name & then tried to give reasons too why he thinks it's him. Made his suspicion about Matt unreliable & seem a bit Radom. Almost like he was guessing & just hoping to be right.

I would call Peter pure evil as that same selfishness you mentioned Peter has no bounds. As Peter manipulated his own nephew to turn his girlfriend into a werewolf for a possible issue that probably never would have happened. Also, I think it's funny you mentioned that unlike Gerard, Peter actually cares for his family while Gerard doesn't. When Peter has actually killed his own niece for power & his own personal vendetta. While I will say it was understandable. I refuse to say it was justifiable as what Scott's dad did was justifiable.

There was a moment when I thought Peter did care for his family, When he was watching over Cora in the hospital. But the way he smiled after Derek agreed to the method that could save her. It made me rethink things.

As far as Scott goes. I don't think his threats were impotent. I think he really meant to do it if he had too.

~ Sean 😎

You've never had feelings about something, and didn't know how to explain why? Nobody who you just didn't like, for no real reason? Someone who just rubs you the wrong way? That's what was happening. It wasn't a 'guess' it was intuition.

I don't know about Peter. Sometimes he does bad/ambiguous things for good seeming reasons, and other times, like the look he gave Derek after he agreed to 'burn out' his spark to save Cora, I really doubt it.

If his threats weren't impotent he would've killed Peter, not locked him up somewhere, where Murphy's law will surely take hold and an escape will happen. I've had that feeling multiple times. All I'm saying is because of the way stiles was looking & how he was stating his case it just seemed like he was guessing. Just to say he had a list of suspects. Stiles may have really had a bad feeling about Matt. Then again he could've just been gusseing.

Even when Derek seemed like he was dying. Peter showed this look on his face like he was really shock & I guess sad. But then looked at everyone like "you heard the man. Let's go save Scott." We all know that Peters real plan was to kill Scott (or at least get him killed). I thought Peter was going to change his mind about killing Scott (or at least wait some other time to try) & go after Kate instead for his nephew, but instead he chose to kill Scott first (then I guess kill Kate).

Peter and Scott's fight wasn't so much about "kill him be for he kills you,"as they tried to imply. It was really a fight between their beliefs & convictions. As Peter believes you can't win a fight (or be an alpha) without being willing to kill. While Scott believes you can win a fight & be an alpha without having to kill. I believe this is why Peter said "you want to beat me. Then your going to have to kill me."

But as we all saw, Scott beat Peter without having to kill him. Also, have you ever thought the "then end it Peter, because you won't get another chance like this," line wasn't Scott threatening to kill Peter.

Name: Sean 😎