Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-12634038-20131008035810/@comment-544940-20160910055723

JEK wrote: 544940 wrote: Not that familair with the vampires on TVD but if it's a one on one I'd say it depends.

Look at The Beast which is one of the most powerful werewolves on the show.

1. It tanked pump action Shotgun bullets and other firearms without any major damage.

2. It was able to go toe to toe with a hellhound and won most of it's encounters and the Hellhound was capable of easily flipping over a jeep and giving a guy severe third degree burns along with other pretty powerful stuff.

3. It can move extremely fast for it's size and leap massive distances with no issue. ((Episode 2 when it leaps over the cliff to catch up with Liam and Hayden and the scene where you see the security camera capture it running))

4. It easily handled Liam and Scott, granted they aren't really that op.

We also have Deuc who moves tremendously fast and easily handled a near full powered Darrach like nothing and flipped Derek around in the air like nothing and he wasn't even trying in that fight and Peter from season 1 who was capable of running around on walls and moving extremely fast, not much for strength however. Well, here's the thing. Vampires from the Vampire Diaries/The Originals are kind of ridiculous when it comes to their strength/speed levels. No ordinary human stands a chance against them without the element of surprise, or overwhelming numbers and prior warning (and even then its iffy). You won't see any vampires getting pinned down behind a dumpster by hunters in TVD (yes, that was a little bit of shade being thrown at S2 Derek/Boyd. ;) ), you'll either see them get shot a whole bunch with wooden bullets (because they'll just laugh off regular bullets) and be temporarily incapacitated, or they'll move faster than the eye can see and murder everyone in the room.

We rarely see TW werewolves approach the level of speed that TVD vampires do on the daily. We've seen Scott/Peter/Derek zip all over the place, but its not really a "from a standstill" type thing, its them accelerating to that speed. A TVD vampire can move so fast (from a dead stop; just standing casually in front of you, and then top speed) that you can be looking in front of you, and then in the time it takes you to blink its behind you and your neck is snapped. Literally the only werewolf we've seen move that fast is Deucalion, and even then......

TVD vampires can take more punishment (they can't be killed unless you remove their head or their heart, or stake them in the heart with wood; anything else they'll recover from. Werewolves on TW have limits to how much they can heal, and can be killed by relatively mundane things by comparison. Like blood loss, or having their throat torn open.).

And if we're going by most powerful to most powerful, the Original Vampires on TVD/TO are literally immortal unless staked through the heart with wood from one specific tree. One of them once caused a gas leak inside a house, and then lit himself on fire to set off an explosion to kill an enemy. He walked out of it in one piece, relatively unfazed (though it probably hurt like a bitch). The Beast was big and strong and fast, but.........I have a hard time believing it would survive being at the heart of a massive explosion. TVD feats are more consistent then Teen Wolf Werewolf ones which is a problem within the show.

As you said we've seen Werewolves appear/leave in an instant. Scott at the school, Peter with Mr Harris in 1x09 and even 1x12 considering no one could catch him or even touch him until he grabbed Kate. If Alpha's used these speeds in fights however they'd end to quickly which is most likely why they don't move superfast. They've also been shown to easily smash stone and send people flying, yet other times there punches seem to do nothing.

And what you said about Werewolves not being as durable is true, the majority would die from mudane wounds but I doubt The Beast would. Like TVD Vampires it's easily tanked things like bullets from pistols, shotguns etc things that would kill/severely injure an average werewolf. Heck they needed to make a specific weapon just to kill it which was the pike made of silver and encased with mountain ash and wolfsbane if I remember correctly. Heck even when Lydia seperated the Beast's spirit from Mason they still needed it to finish it off. And I think it would be capable of surving a house explosion/the burns that come with it. Even then that isn't really explored considering The Beast has shadows that form it's look and does not actually transform in a literral sense.

Granted the op states Alpha Werewolves vs a Regular Vampire in TVD and I think Deuc and Peter could manage that.

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