Board Thread:COMPLETE BULLSHIT Forum/@comment-98.166.214.56-20140321012615/@comment-6383956-20140322152547

LadyX wrote:

Grahamburglar wrote: Then by your own argument, there are no wolves in Scott's pack at all. We've never seen Scott ask Isaac to be in his pack. Heck, we never saw Boyd agree to be Derek's pack.

We can infer, using our brains, that Boyd said yes to Derek in season 2. We can also infer from Isaac's behavior that he said yes to joining to Scott's pack.

Why we therefore cannot infer that Derek is in Scott's pack is beyond me.

(As for last season -- I assume you mean 3a? You know, that season where Scott routinely defied Derek by going to confront Deucalion, joining Deucalion, etc? Or did you mean season 2 where they were actually working against each other?) I normally agree with you Graham, but I feel the need to point out, there's a big difference in inferring that Scott accepts Isaac as pack, when he is friends with Isaac, they live together, and Scott took his opinion into account about the twins joining the pack.

Scott has a completely different history with Derek. Scott has constantly used Derek when it was benefits to him, but refused to join his pack. Derek has always wanted Scott to be pack, and I haven't seen that change, but we know Scott has had issues with accepting Derek as pack in the past, and I can't just 'assume' Derek is pack now without some sort of acknowledgment from Scott. OKay, but there's a fundamental part of the relationship between the two of them that you're missing: Scott didn't want to join Derek's pack because he didn't want to follow Derek's methods, didn't want to do things "Derek's way". It's not that he didn't want to be in a pack with Derek, it's that he didn't want Derek to be his leader.

This whole season, Derek has been following Scott, doing things Scott's way, and even sharing all of the information he gets with Scott. (Seriously, when has Derek ever ever ever been so forthcoming with information before?) And Scott doesn't have anything against Derek, per se, he had a problem with Derek's methods. So, the only reason Scott refused to be in a pack with Derek is no longer there. And Derek has shown he has no qualms whatsoever with Scott being his leader.

So, again, if we can make the assumption that Isaac is in Scott's pack based on his behavior, we should be able to assume that Derek is in his pack based on his behavior.