Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24732895-20140622230817/@comment-11533671-20140702221550

LadyX

I originally posted a reply to your post in which you asserted that the ash expanded because Stiles believed it would. I haven't changed my view that this is completely false. My two points from that post was that 1) Stiles is only human and not supernatural or magical and 2) The ash didn't magically expand. Those two things I have maintained throughout every reply so on what planet is that me changing my tune?

I never said there was no magic at all involved, the ash certainly is magical as it creates a barrier that some supernatural creatures cannot cross. That and the ability to land perfectly in the desired formation are just about the only magical properties the show has given us over and over again. It has NEVER shown us that it expands in the way you've maintained, i.e. somehow spawning more ash to cover the distance.

What I find truly astonishing is that you are still coming at me using the same flawed logic with no backing and saying I am wrong and yet you replied the following concerning the ash expansion:

"I already agreed that it's not canon. I admit that it has never been expanded upon."

So if it isn't canon then why are you constantly arguing that you have proven me wrong with "irrefutable facts"? Hate to tell you but if it isn't canon then it cannot be an irrefutable fact.

You posted (albeit to someone else): "All Jeff's tweet means is they decided not to go that route after they introduced it. It doesn't mean it was never an idea." but this is in direct contradiction to what you told me with this post:

"I feel it was an idea they toyed around with, that never came to fruition."

So which one is it? Either Jeff really intended the story or route to head in that direction (Stiles becoming some sort of magic-user) and decided not to use it OR it was simply your own view as to what you thought they were doing. In the Jeff tweet post you attribute the storyline to being Jeff's idea, but in the original post to me you assert it was all your "feeling" that it was an idea being toyed with by Jeff and the writers.

Jeff's tweet in no way shape or form states or even indicates that they were going the route you envisioned they were going to but then "...decided not to...". You are taking an awful lot of liberties to arrive at that conclusion. Please let us all know which interview Jeff stated that he was going to have Stiles be anything more than human (which includes being like a druid or something) or that one of the magical properties of the ash is to magically spawn more if needed. You can't because it doesn't exist anywhere but in your own mind.

Bottom line is this: I have only stated as my points that Stiles is not magical (which is a canonical fact) and that the ash didn't magically expand (or sprouted more ash). Nowhere have I been proven wrong by the show. You haven't proven anything. Anyone reading through your posts will clearly see that it is you that is changing your tune.