Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24744701-20160311092230/@comment-13895380-20160313231616

Jestermonkey4u wrote:

AlphaOfAlphas wrote: ...Canon matters when speculating, but only if it's reasonable. There are other factors as to why things happen, especially when it can't be logically explained by canon. A lot of the times, it can be a matter of budget, lack of time, the writer's style of story-telling, etc. All of these should be considered if canon just doesn't seem to explain it thoroughly or without speculators having to create fan-fiction using canon. Fan-fiction using canon is still fan-fiction. I literally used canon to explain a possible reason for an event. Now you're just restating what I've said before. Lol. Whatever. What you said before wasn't a legitimate argument. One of your arguments simply was fanfiction, and as I said in the post you quoted, fanfiction is still fanfiction, even if you base it on canon.

Using your own argument, if someone sees you step on a Lego, and then 30 minutes after, they see you again, looking very normal, do you expect them to still ask if you are okay for stepping on that Lego? Obviously not, because at this point, it's clear that you have recovered from it -- that the pain is negligible. Likewise, if Deucalion took the gunk out of him, kicked Theo's ass, was normal in the school, and when Theo killed Tracey...why should we think that he's still affected by it? There is literally no evidence to believe that it still is. Likewise, Scott, Liam AND Deucalion were electrocuted, and when they walked up to Theo, we can safely say that they have recovered from it. Their actions are perfectly normal -- there are no physical signs of pain. Saying that there may be effects we can't see, yet they have never talked about, is indeed fanfiction -- headcanon.

Tell me, do you expect the gunk to still affect Liam and Malia? NO, because asides from WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY VISUALLY AFFECTED, there has been no indication ON THE SHOW that they are still affected.

Now let me describe to you events where we can LOGICALLY and USING CANON, say had long-lasting effects on people:

When Scott fought the Alpha Pack, the NEXT DAY, he was still VISUALLY INJURED and had clear VISUAL SYMPTOMS. In fact, the show addressed through DIALOGUE, that a scratch from an Alpha takes longer to heal. In fact, they said that since Season 2. Scott eventually healed from it, and in the rest of the episodes he was back to normal? Are we to assume that in his next fight, and even till now, that he is still injured? NO, because they have showed nothing on screen indicated that he is still hurt by it.

You see what Derek did to Kate? That is a DISPLAY of something having long-lasting effects, as the SHOW has not only shown PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS but the show's DIALOGUE actually addressed it. It turned out to be him evolving but the argument still remains.

In no way did the show imply or demonstrate long-lasting effects of gunks that...we don't even know what it does, besides it having Kanima venom (e.g. when Hayden put it in), which Deuc clearly healed from as he got up. After he got up slowly, they didn't show any other indication that it still affected him. That was the point of him getting up slowly, to show that it has affected him but mostly wore off. Ever since then, he was completely fine, even in that scene. Again, he beat up Theo in that scene. Are you saying he was weak?

It doesn't matter if you're using canon to explain something if it makes no sense.

It's like you haven't read my post...He's not saying that nerfing villains is canon, so you're literally arguing with yourself. Nerfing villains is speculation about what the writers do for story telling purposes, not a rule in the actual show. How is that so hard to understand? JEFF has said that he likes when his heroes struggle, because otherwise it'd be boring if they win before the end. Are you trolling?

If this doesn't get to you, then to each his own.