Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24732895-20140622230817/@comment-26193787-20140701230331

Jestermonkey4u wrote: Grahamburglar wrote: Jester.... you're willfully ignoring things from that scene (and the scene with Deaton). You've already made up your mind so it wouldn't matter if Jeff Davis himself walked up to you on the street and said "Stiles used magic" you'd be like "nah bro".

They gave us key clues in dialogue:

DEATON: "It's just powder until a spark ignites it. You need to be that spark, Stiles." (in reference to whether mountain ash is magic or not, funny about that.)

AND

STILES: "Come on, Stiles. Just picture it. Just imagine it working. Just (he sees bumper sticker at this point) imagine."

Not to mention visual clues:

The shot of the bumper sticker being in the midst of that line is key -- it blatantly tells us that imagination is powerful. Right before he imagines something, and it happens. And the shot of the Jeep is a distance shot and while you're right in that it probably wasn't actually 50 feet away, it's VERY VERY VERY VERY clear that it's further away than the dust in his hand should be able to stretch.

If they weren't indicating something magic was going on, then that scene was the biggest load of shit this show has ever peddled to us and everyone involved should have been fired. With real fire, so they could never even accidentally be involved in telling a narrative again ever. You don't put in clues and hints and then be like "nah bro, just kidding".

Also, look at the title of this forum. "False Info and Speculative Discussion". You're not helping the site by trying to dissuade people from speculating. Especially when you're blatantly ignoring things that canonically happened on the show for your own speculation. Because whether it was magic or it was not magic isn't canon either way, because nothing about that scene has ever been addressed ever since. I don't know how you interpreted things that way but whatever. Scott and Stiles were there with Deaton so that is why Deaton told Stiles he had to be the "spark". Stiles is ONLY human so he would best be able to handle the barrier while Scott tried to find Jackson. About that first part: STILES IS ONLY HUMAN!!!! That negates any and all fan fiction you have about him making the ash expand magically. Period. That alone has been proven on the show and anything else is you convincing no one but yourself. Oh and speculation is all good when it comes to things we haven't seen proven otherwise. Oh and YES, they were not indicating that something mafic was going on and to believe otherwise is the biggest load of shit anyone but Foxtino has spewed out. I agree and also didn't scott's mother throw moutain ash at the door and it "magically" made a perfect line that stopped the Oni from getting in (momentarily)? So unless Scott's mom used magic i think any "magic" that's going on is all in the moutain ash, not the person using it.