Talk:Derek Hale/@comment-Maria Trimble-20120815202905/@comment-Maria Trimble-20120816174221

Derek told them the consequences, that they would be hunted. He didn't lie to them. He built the pack so that he can defend himself against the Alpha Pack. What's wrong with wanting to defend yourself? The full moon did count because they were still out of control (which was my original point). Whether it was the full moon or their own decision, he still had to take care of it. Even if Erica didn't give lip (which I highly doubt), Isaac still did. You said none of them ever gave lip, which is untrue. It's not about the question or the words, it's how you say them. And as I've already said, it's understandable why they left but it doesn't change the fact that they left. Intentional or not, it still happened. They still left him to fend for himself, which is a betrayal. And I don't think Derek knew they were coming this soon. He said they were coming but Peter corrected him, saying they were already here. So we don't even know if he knew for sure that they were coming then.