Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-25184427-20140722165407/@comment-5812695-20140728190417

DManCO wrote: LSWatcher wrote:

Anyway, shall we speak about gays again? Sure. :-)

I will give credit to Jeff for showing us gay characters that those of us who are not like Kurt from Glee can relate to. Myself, I am into hiking, off-roading (ATV's or Jeep) and guns. Can't stand theater (musical or otherwise). Have no "feminine side" that is trying to get out and express itself.

There are a LOT of guys like me.

So the gay jock is not really a fantasy or propaganda. They're a real thing. Of course, that means that Danny's sexuality had to be mentioned in dialogue a lot because otherwise he was not obviously gay.

Where we get annoyed is that it had to be mentioned in dialogue a lot because otherwise he was not a significant character, and thus not developed. He became a token gay by virtue of the fact that it was his primary character trait. Since he did not participate in the show's action (except as a victim) there was really nothing else to it. Ethan was a little better, but not much. He and Danny, as a couple, were like actors who had wandered onto the Teen Wolf set from another show and that was why their relationship was portrayed so vaguely. While I can't relate to gays, werewolves or Mexicans,  I understand what you are saying. I know some gay people and they aren't little unicorns who like to frolic in meawdows or domineering strapon steelb--bs. Most of them are just people who like people of the same gender, with their own quirks and personalities.

And yes, thats the phrasing I wanted. Gay characters are just gay, and only gay. It's common for minor and recurring characters to have less developed characteristics but the way the writers do it sounds like "did we already told today that this character is gay?" making the whole thing awkward. Just look the black guy, Liam's friend, I can't remember his name and the only I can remember about him is talking about beating a guy and taking the guy for him. When take out of context sounds strange, when inside context is just unnecessary.

Danny was progess since he wasn't the "default flamboyant gay" guy. Outside that, it seems that his sole existence was due to be the main gay puns guy. The shirtless Derek, the dancing on gym, the gay bar, Stiles jokes... no variety of gay and his very presence on-scene is a definitively indicator that a gay joke is about to happen. Something like you have a gay friend and he pops from nowhere everytime you want to make a gay joke.