Board Thread:COMPLETE BULLSHIT Forum/@comment-24439517-20140325084846/@comment-11533671-20140614181308

Kurenai24 wrote: Jestermonkey4u wrote: I thought the same thing. Also, if it were Kate why would they ask for La Loba if she is really a Nagual? I had to look up the Nagual lore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagual) and I can't figure out why they wouldn't use their own words for her. Surely they differentiate between a werewolf (or she-wolf) and other lore. They ask for a she-wolf in their own language - "la loba" so if she is something other than that why not use their word for it? Sort of like if they had refered to Kira as a fox and not a kitsune, or if her mom had said she was looking for a dark fox instead of a nogitsune. They may mean the same thing but I'm sure Kira's mother would use the japanese word, not the english one. Oh well, I suppose it is what it is and there is no need to argue about semantics, bring on S4! La loba's english translation is literally she-wolf, but it's also an umbrella term for shapeshifters in spanish mythology, and that's what a Nagual is i.e a shapeshifter.

So if you had your subtitle captions on, Arya would be saying "la loba", your subtitles would say she's saying "she-wolf" when she really means "shapeshifter"

Where is the "la loba" where is the "shapeshifter"

Things really do get lost in translation.

Also people who are bilingual switch between usage of words so Noshiko saying fox and kitsune is kind of understandable.

But particulary when it comes to the word Kitsune, in English it references the folklore, but in Japanese it's in reference to foxes real or mythology. So Teen Wolf might have been doing their own differentiation. I wasn't confused at all about the words la loba. I don't use the captions and haven't forgotten all of my Spanish class lessons. lol

Noshiko used her native language to say Kitsune and Nogitsune. She refered to the old woman in the prison camp as a werewolf (Ōkami), not a Kitsune or Nogitsune because the old woman wasn't one of those things. If she meant "shapeshifter" then why not use the word Tasōnosenshi? As I said though...semantics.

I just questioned why the Mexicans would use La Loba when they are looking specifically for a Nagual, if that is what Kate is. I accept they may not know what she is exactly so they were just assuming but they don't strike me as being naive about the creatures they hunt. Then again they could have asked for hombre-lobos if they meant werewolf or any other name so why La Loba? Because they wanted a female wolf or She Wolf. If they meant to say the umbrella term "shapeshifter" then they would have said camiaformas. Once more, you guessed it, semantics!

Oh and 'shapeshifter' is the umbrella term, not the other way around. Kitunes, nogitsunes, werewolves, bezerkers, etc. are specific forms of the umbrella term "shapeshifter". As I mentioned...drum roll please...it is what it is and no need to nitpick the semantics, unless of course it turns out to be Talia or some other She-wolf. lol