Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-50.67.152.227-20140201055654/@comment-50.67.152.227-20140202061019

DManCO wrote: 50.67.152.227 wrote: @DmanCo: Who said anything about Scott being a paragon of virtue? I'm not talking about morality or morals or even about Scott. I'm talking about Stiles and his unnecessary poor treatment of Scott's friend, Isaac. Now don't get me wrong, I love Stiles as a character, however, his mistreatment towards Isaac is something that is taking away my enjoyment from his character. Stiles snide remarks and comments towards Isaac make Stiles come off as a petty, childish and jealous girlfriend in high school. Scott has a friendship outside of Stiles. What is wrong with that? Since the beginning of this season, I have found myself enjoying Scott/Isaac interaction more than I have Scott/Stiles interaction. Isaac has become like another brother to him. Plus, let's not forget that Isaac is also living under Scott's roof. Did we all just forget that Isaac is an orphan? That he literally has no family left? SCOTT IS ISAAC'S FAMILY NOW. Isaac had nobody before, nobody to turn to. Now Isaac has started to become accepted into the group and Stiles does nothing but roll his eyes at Isaac and make snide remarks about him. Stiles made a comment about Isaac's abuse. For me, that was a really low blow on behalf of Stiles. You say that Scott is not a paragon of virtue and that Isaac is a shady and sketchy guy. Well, Stiles isn't Mr. Perfect either. Therefore, Stiles doesn't have a right to judge who Scott should be friends with, nor does he have the right to disrespect Isaac and treat him like crap. Stiles is supposed to be the emotional aspect of the show, the human aspect of the show? If that is the case, where is Stiles' compassion for Isaac? Where is Stiles' sympathy for someone who has been abused and has gone through so much torture, emotionally, physically and psychologically, growing up? Of Stiles is Mr. Compassionate and Mr. Humanity, where in the hell is Stiles' compassion for someone who has endured so much? You're talking about feelings as if they were apps on a tablet that you just turn on and off. The fact of life is that friendships, especially in high school, are a complex, fraught affair.

Does Stiles have the right to dislike or disapprove of other people that Scott becomes friends with? Of course he does! Just as Scott can do likewise. My point was that you have this very one-sided view of things here. Stiles, who is much more physically fragile than Scott, has repeatedly risked his life on Scott's behalf! He could have ditched him as soon as the werewolf thing happened. Indeed, by all rights for his own personal safety he should have ditched him. The only reason Stiles has had to endure such things as Derek taking refuge in his bedroom (because Scott falsely accused Derek of being a murderer) or Peter basically abducting him and also forcing him to do stuff was because of Stiles ongoing involvement with Scott! Otherwise, he would have been an ordinary boy that neither would have taken any notice of. Speaking of attracting negative attention, did we forget that Stiles also became a target of the Argent's and was beaten by Gerard purely as a way to deliver a threat to Scott?

So, Stiles frankly has an awful lot invested in this friendship. Literal blood, sweat and tears. None of which really would have applied to him at all had he just walked away.

Stiles has frankly been very indulgent of Scott even beyond these things. For example, Allison. He supported their relationship, even though it was causing him to lose time spent with Scott, and diminishing how close they were.

But now we have Isaac in the picture. He's basically signed on with Scott because Derek was not an especially great Alpha. However, much like a girlfriend might question her boyfriend taking on a new female friend, Stiles is questioning his best friend taking on new male friends. Especially given that not that long ago it wasn't really clear whether Isaac, along with Boyd and Erica, were going to be good guys or bad guys.

Isaac living with the McCall's is sweet, but really has more to do with a teenage werewolf ducking Social Services than having nowhere else to go. That also has to bother Stiles. Isaac has one-upped him and actually moved into Scott's house!

Right now Scott knows that he can depend on Stiles no matter what. But Stiles does not know if the reverse is true. This creates a major imbalance in their relationship where Scott, who already had most of the power, now has all of power. Stiles justifiably feels insecure about that.

That Isaac is not as much of a nice guy as a lot of fanfic makes him out to be doesn't help. He's also reckless (picks fights with Alphas) and adds to Scott's (and by extension Stiles') responsibilities.

I get that Stiles has repeatedly been there for Scott through it all. But I feel like every single season is the same, with Stiles needing reassurance regarding his relationship with Scott. To me, this shows that Stiles doesn't trust Scott, doesn't believe in Scott and doesn't believe in the relationship/friendship they have.

It must be so unfortunate for poor Stiles (I'm sorry, I do love him, but still, he's getting on my nerves) that Scott's world and life does not revolve or centre around him. Therefore, Stiles has to either resort to acting like a petty jealous girlfriend when he feels insecure about his friendship with Scott, or he has to somehow seek some kind of affirmation or reassurance from Scott that he [Stiles] will always be important to him [Scott], no matter what. It seems to me that Stiles has absolutely no trust in Scott whatsoever and that he has no faith in him. What kind of friendship is that?

At least Isaac trusts Scott. He's never questioned Scott, not really. Isaac has faith in Scott. He doesn't need the constant affirmation regarding his friendship with Scott. And that is why I personally love Scott/Isaac's friendship much more. Yes, Isaac is dating Allison, but Scott was willing to put his feelings aside and be there for Isaac regardless, no matter how hard it was. Between Isaac and Scott, there is a strong bond and most importantly, there is trust. It seems to me, again, that Stiles has a lack of faith in Scott and also a lack of trust in Scott. And that is why Scott is starting to drift away from Stiles.