Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-16047999-20140107140433/@comment-13965604-20140113175345

DManCO wrote: BoricuaWolf wrote: DManCO wrote: For starters, the Bro Code does not universally apply to all male friends. It would definitely apply to Stiles, given his close relationship with Scott. Isaac is more nebulous. Despite having apparently been in the same school all these years, they did not become anything resembling friends until very recently. Referencing Jackson was not a good choice, since he and Scott have never been friends at all (rivals in fact).

Second, Isaac has a guilt complex the size of Mt Everest, which is a natural side effect of having been abused for the most trivial things for years. He would probably suggest that Scott should hit him for stealing the last Pop Tart! God knows his father would have done so.

Third, he is being punished for honesty, not for actions. Isaac has not actually done anything with Allison so far. But he is being honest with Scott about wanting to. I am not sure whether you are a human or a Vulcan, but most humans have difficulty consciously deciding what they are going to feel. Scott is physically attacking Isaac, the victim of child abuse, for telling him the truth about the feelings he is experiencing!

It is unreasonable for Scott to throw Isaac together with Allison the way that he did, and then expect him to not feel anything except what Scott wants him to feel. If anything, it is malicious and more than a little bit cruel. Rather like putting a steak in front of a starving man and then telling them that they will be doing you wrong if they eat it.

Matters are only made worse by the fact that the elligible dating pool for heterosexual male werewolves is, well, basically Allison and Lydia. Sure, Ethan seems to be getting away with dating Danny. But we don't actually know very much about their relationship and Scott was never happy about it to begin with. So, does his Alpha status reflect real life wolf packs where he gets to decide who can mate and who cannot? Because any potential new dates introduce risk to the pack.

Plus, to be blunt, Allison would be completely justified shooting Scott full of arrows for daring to decide who she can and cannot date.

They may not be as close of friends as Scott and Styles, but sorry, they ARE friends. Isaac really looks up to Scott and trusts him. Scott is letting Isaac LIVE with him. If I was a teenager and I ask my mother to let you live in our house, then yeah, bro code applies. Again, why should Scott assume that there would be feelings developing between them? How would he know that they would develop? Why would Scott jump to that conclusion? Also the comparison to Jackson is actually particularly apt. I was not implying that there was bro code between them (as you mentioned they hated each other). My point was that if he was even willing to ask JACKSON to look after her, then asking Isaac to do the same does not in any even remotely imply that he expected anything to develop between then or much less that he would be ok with it. You are right, maybe hitting him for expressing his feelings is extreme, but even though you don’t like it, it was for comic relief. And even though you didn’t, I DID find it funny.

You make sooo many other good arguments on this wiki, but I seriously do not understand you with this whole Allison thing. I honestly do not get why you think friends shouldn’t have consideration for each other. Like I said before, it’s not Scott telling Allison who SHE can date (he hasn’t said ANYTHING to her), it’s telling HIS friend to be respectful and be a good friend. Good friends don’t do that to each other. It’s not about Allison. I seriously don’t understand how you can’t see that. This is not a woman’s rights issue like you’re trying to make it. Allsion wouldn't be justified to do ANYTHING. Just like she would be mad if Scott were to Date Lydia (like she was mad when they kissed in Season 1). You're trying to make an issue that's just not there.

Well, part of it, like I said, is that you seem to think that Isaac is a Vulcan.

To repeat what I keep saying, and you keep ignoring: Isaac has not done anything with Allison! He is not secretly dating her. They have not been secretly doing each other. The closest thing they have had to a "date" would be Isaac accompanying Allison in her attempt to go murder her father (whom she thought was the Darach)!

However, like any human being who does not have Vulcan-like control over his emotions, he is starting to have feelings towards her.

So what is he doing? He is telling Scott the truth about the situation! He is not going behind Scott's back. He is not lying and pretending that he's not feeling anything. He is, in fact, candidly admitting to Scott what he is feeling and he even acknowledges the fact that he knows that Scott might not be happy about it!

You speak of Isaac being "respectful"? He is being respectful. He is being totally up front with Scott about this, has not taken any liberties with Allison and is instead talking to Scott about it!

Scott's "respectful" response has been to hit him hard enough to send him flying into a wall! Twice! You really have no moral ground here. Because one does not demonstrate friendship by being violent towards a friend who is having awkward feelings and decides to talk to you about them before they even act on them!

Just FYI, the Bro Code carries a sub-clause you are neglecting: namely, that it is okay to date a friend's ex if they give the okay. Otherwise the Barney's of the world would be able to pull the entire female population from their friends' dating pool. Hence, it should be possible to talk about the matter without getting hit.

While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, try to keep in mind, at least the first time it happened, Isaac was telling Scott to hit him. As a girl, I'm under the impression that that is a guy thing. 'I upset you, hit me, we'll both move on.' Werewolves just have more strength to put behind it, intentionally or not. The first instance I found funny, the second, and seeing his reactions with his dad, has me worried about his control. Which is very not funny.