Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-13895380-20150805141216/@comment-13965604-20150806133514

JEK wrote: AlphaOfAlphas wrote: Mgc26133 wrote: I think foxes are like werewolves. New werewolves have trouble controlling themselves, like there have been instances where Scott tried to kill Stiles and Boyd tried to kill two children. But they weren't possessed. So I don't think Kira is possessed, I think she just needs to learn to control her fox spirit. The main reason I think the thunder kitsune is trying to possess Kira is because Kira's mom said that the fox and human sides are both struggling to control Kira's body. It's kind of like how the nogitsune and Stiles were both struggling to control his body, but the nogitsune (being the worse type of kitsune) was just way more aggressive than the kitusne attached to Kira. Furthurmore, we saw the same symbol the nogitsune and oni used in season 3b on Kira's bedhead last episode. This means that she is struggling with "self" -- or being herself. I think there were a few strokes before the symbol but I'm not sure what they mean but I know the significance of what looks like a 5 was to signify that people are still themselves (not possessed). The nogitsune used the symbol mockingly, and since Kira's parents were shocked when they saw it, maybe the thunder kitsune is using the symbol in the the same mocking way. Eh.........I'm not entirely sure about all that. If you recall, it was stated that kitsune are fox spirits. Meaning that's what they are; they're not human with an ability, or changed by some medium into something supernatural, they're something else entirely.

At one point Peter stated that kitsune spirits can't even take on a corporeal human semblance until they're more than a century old (meaning that the youngest kitsune you'll meet is almost guaranteed to be older and wiser and more knowledgeable and more dangerous than you).

Now, we don't know how this affects Kira, as she was apparently born to a kitsune mother, rather than.......uh.....materialsing out of nothing? Or however it is kitsune spirits are created? Maybe she has two souls dwelling within one body, a  previously dormant fox and a human counterpart? Maybe she has a schism of the spirit, and needs to bring the two halves of her personality into alignment? Who knows? But I don't think I'd call whatever's going on here possession, as clearly the fox in this instance is part of her, rather than being some outside force trying to push it's way in, like the Nogitsune.

I was wondering about her being... A mix myself, and not an actual kitsune born of two kitsune parents or however they are created.

The Self symbol was a backwards 5 not what we saw in the last episode. It was drawn the same way though. What was made was the number 115. Unless someone was expecting us to read it backwards, and decided to combine the self symbol with part of the symbol for Discipline, which seems like a stretch to me.

I really don't know that this is all that different than a werewolf needing to learn control. Or it might have something to do with her blood sacrifice at the temple last season. That "fox spirit" looks totally different than it has in the past. It almost looks like a bear now. But with pointy ears.