Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-14066471-20140114172238/@comment-10280603-20140116164109

DManCO wrote: Bigwolfonbase wrote: LadyX wrote: I'm still confused about how you can be an Alpha if you have no subordinates. Being an alpha doesnt require any subordinates. Its just that extra spark of power that makes them stronger and allows them to turn other people. Everything is pretty up in the air except for that part because we've seen alphas without packs. Derek wasn't going for being an alpha when he was turning kids. He was already an alpha. He was trying to form a pack which makes him and them stronger. Though we never see anyone actually being stronger. Just like when he killed boyd we never saw him get considerably stronger lame. Derek could have been a little choosier if he wanted Betas that actually would have formed a strong, effective, pack. He should have gone for Stiles, which would have guaranteed Scott followed along, and probably Danny (you can never have too many teen geniuses, and Lydia was immune).

But the needing three Betas to be stronger still seems like discontinuity, since Derek did not really seem any stronger than Peter at any point, even when he had Isaac, Boyd and Erica (or Cora) as compared to Peter (who only, kind of, had Scott) or most of the Alpha Pack (who had none). True but thats a two fold issue. Derek needed people that would follow him willingly as we've seen you cant force pack membership also he had only met danny once for a little bit so it makes sense to manipulate weaker wills to your cause. Also except for the full change which is one of the biggest  discontinuitys this show has, its very hard to judge the difference in power between derek and peter. Peter fought some untrained humans "he got the drop on Chris and Kate the night he died" and 2 betas one being pretty much brand new. Derek on the other hand had to fight a Kanima and 5 Alphas. 3 of which had been Alphas since he was a child and the other two formed a superwolf. Their opponents were in different classes.