Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-27547895-20160208013829/@comment-6383956-20160210171254

Bigwolfonbase wrote: Grahamburglar wrote: Bigwolfonbase wrote: NervousShipper wrote: on the other hand, gender matters infinitely more than genetics and sex when it comes to identity. I'm talking about for the purposes of biology not mental health To be completely honest, I think we should be veering away from that topic altogether. Your example of grafting was a perfect explanation. The rest of it.... less so. Gender and biological sex are deeply complex, not to mention controversial. And, frankly, your grasp of it doesn't seem particularly solid. So, let's not talk about it for the purpose of biology or for any other reason.

That'd be great, thanks. My grasp on it is perfectly fine. If you want to get someone to stop talking about something insulting their knowledge of it is a piss poor way of doing it. Really? Your grasp on it is fine?

Then why did you say "decide to become a girl"? Because I know transgender people who would be absolutely offended by that phrasing. They don't "decide to become a girl", they feel as though they've been a girl their entire lives. What they decide to do is have surgery to make them more comfortable in their bodies.

And, since you were speaking about biological sex rather than gender, you should have been using the words "male" and "female" rather than "dude" and "girl" because specificity is very important in issues like this one.

And, by the way, there have been some biological differences found in transsexual people -- the size of the stria terminalis (which is part of the brain) of MTF transsexuals matches that of cisgender females, whereas the stria terminalis in FTM transsexuals matches that of cisgender males. So, no, biologically speaking, you're still wrong. You MIGHT have meant that their chromosomes would still be XY, but of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that someone is male because there's all kind of intersex conditions and some of them happen with XY chromosomes.

So, again, maybe you should stop talking about it. It didn't help prove your point, all it did was bring us into a controversial, complex issue that there was absolutely no need for, and you didn't even explain it right.