Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-2.2.143.109-20140810222158/@comment-2020973-20170906175025

Killer kev wrote: 1. Everything you just mentioned applied to only Jackson. It wasn't said for anyone else. And no, it hasn't been stated several times that sometimes the bite can go wrong and a person can be something other than a werewolf. It was stated that the kanima was wrong, and that Jackson's shape reflected who he was, but no one said that every non-werewolf that comes from a werewolf bite or scratch is a mutation.

2. Call it genetic or call it spirirtual. How they did it doesn't really matter that much. It's not that relevant in the topic at hand, which is whether or not Kate and Sebastien are mutated abominations, which they aren't as far as Canon is concerned.

3. You can't find not one quote from the show that says Kate and Seb were mutations, therefore, its unsupported speculation. That's logic makes no sense IMO. Because no one said that Kate was NOT a mutation or abomination, that means she is one??? No said that werecoyotes, hellhounds, and wendigos aren't mutations or abominations either, so I guess that means they all are, at least going by that logic. No one said that druids can't fly, so I guess they can. No one said alphas can't breathe fire, so by that logic, they can, since no one said otherwise. You see where I'm going? Yes, the entire point is to create werewolves, but things dont always go as planned. However, that doesn't make it a mutation.

4. He was different. That doesn't make him mutated.

If you read my comment above, you can see that I said 'Stiles called it an abomination, and Derek agreed'. But it doesn't matter who said it. They titled the episode "Abomination", meaning that's exactly what the kanima was. The kanima was the result of a mutation that could only be resolved once Jackson fixed his issues. No one said that Kate and Seb had mutations that could be solved once they fix their issues. 1. Yes, Jackson's transformation was wrong. Kate's transformation was wrong. That's why it's called a mutation. Because the bite went wrong. The whole point of being bitten by an alpha is to make more werewolves, not to play a game of wheel-of-shifters.

2. You keep using the word abomination. I am using the term mutation because to me that term is more politically correct and was only used by Stiles because he was scared of the kanima and of the fact he had seen it kill a man and tried to kill him and Derek. It's a simple game of connect the dots, you use what has been stated in cannon to come up with the answer. yes, Sebastioan was still a werewolf. But I still consider him a mutation because of his ability to use darkness to transform, his extreme power level for an omega (he didn't have a pack) and the fact that despite the fact he wasn't an alpha he had a monster form. I think Kate is a mutation because she didn't transform into a werewolf like Jackson didn't.

3. As for me not being able to find a quote. In the first episode of season 4 when they are on their way to La Iglasia they discuss of Kate is a werewolf. Scott says he doesn't know but relates what was learned about Jackson with the quote 'The shape you take reflects the person you are'. Was she ever called a mutation or an abomination? No. But using the fact Scott remembered Jackson and used that line it can be assumed that yes she is a mutation because she IS NOT a werewolf. Do I think other supernaturals are mutations? No! Hellhounds are spirits that posses people. As we saw with Parrish and maybe Halwyn (assuming they ever pull that bullet out of his head) kitsune are foxes that have lived a long time and learned magic power. Wendigos might only be genetic because we know there are families of them. Maybe druids could fly if they had enough power, look what Jenifer could do when she was powered by the nemeton? If she could make shards of glass float why wouldn't she be able to do that to herself? She showed several other powers as well. If Kate isn't a mutation than what would you call her? My theories are not just things I am pulling out of thin air. They are based on quotes and conversations in the show and based on interviews Jeff has given.

4. He wasn't a normal werewolf. A werewolf still yes, but unlike anything ever seen in the show.

As for the episode title it is also what they called that one lacrosse player because of his abnormal size and strength. But it was also about the kanima. Could Kate be turned into a werewolf somehow? Maybe. I will not say anything on that because we don't know if all variants of the bite can be fixed like Jackson was. Maybe she could, maybe she is stuck as a werejaguar forever. I can only guess because if they could help Jackson maybe they could her. But seeing how she has no remorse or guilt for her actions I doubt she could be helped.

The whole point of this was if Kate's green eyes have any meaning. As far as we know, they don't. It could be default werejaguar eyes, it could be because she killed innocent lives. Who knows, unless Jeff or someone else can confirm it seeing how there are only 4 more episodes left I doubt we will learn more about werejaguars.

If you don't want to call Kate or Sebastion mutations, fine. But I am going tto call them mutations based on what has been stated by the show and Jeff. Their symptoms are just like what Jackson had, only with a different outcome.