Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-27547895-20160201202203/@comment-5237598-20160208101312

HolyDrumstick wrote: Godechaud wrote: I just had to laugh really hard... Thank you for that.

I followed the link you postsd and looked at the stets you suggested me to check.

So let's discuss the numbers shall we? Especiallysince you used them as a proof for your opinion.

The teen Wolf wikia has a wam score of 96.05 (out of 100). The lowest wikia has a score 0.2***.

I looked at the numbers wikis. 5000.

TW wikia's current ranking is ....... 39

Let's do the math.... This wiki is under the top 0.78%.

Now in my eye that's a pretty awesome ranking.

Conclusion, you didn't start saving shit. Your making a mess and a fool out of yourself.oh and BTW don't forget that tw (the TV show) ratings dropped year after. I'm sorry that you fail to interpret the numbers correctly.

The number of visits to this site ARE quite high. I'm not denying that. However, this is actually due to the success of Teen Wolf as a show and the success of Wikia.com. Of course, if people know about Wikia and are fans of the show, they will VISIT this wikia, which is at the top when you search.

If you base it off that, this wikia is basically getting credit for others' success. It is what it is.

So, COMPARE similarly ranked wikias. Compare the communities. You'll see this wikia's community is quite small.

In fact, by Paul's own admission, there have been 3-4 mil visitors throughout periods with only 20-ish members active. Compare those numbers. 3-4mil vs 20. That in itself is evidence of a struggling community.

THIS is exactly why I told you to go look at comparable wikias.

Sorry for my late answer but I was away for the week end. Your answer serioulsy baffles me. You are sorry that I fail to Interpret the numbers correctly? The numbers are clear, this wiki has a very high traffic, has a top ranking. So the numbers are really good, yet you say they can't be read and interpreted that way. You seriously have the audacity to tell me a I fail to Interpret the numbers correctly. First of all, I would like to point out that an Interpretation is something personal, a subjective view if you will. To interprete means to give some meaning to results. So I might say you fail to understand these numbers. We're going in circles but I'll repeat myself one more time since you do not want to see my point. I agree with you that the activity (contributions etc...) on this wiki is weaker than on others. This does not surprise me at all. In my opinion, it is not a bad thing. The purpose of this wiki, as I have said many times before, is to inform. Most people come here to look up some info that they might have missed while watching the show or might not have understood. If you contemplate the numbers from that vantage point, this wiki is excellent.

So when you say I fail to interpret the numbers correctly, you actually mean I fail to see them like you. In other words I fail to share your opinion. I find that highly arrogant. It simply means that this wiki does not function as you would want it to.

I don't remember who said it but it was mentioned that other TW Wikis were created (by copying this one) by people who, just like you, weren't happy with how things were run here. All of those wikis failed, yet this one still hasn't. So why not put your effort in one of those? You will have way more creative control. I've been on this wiki for years, since season 1. The wiki was very different then and imo way better. Let me describe the Setup of the Website at that time. There was no Forum for starters. The wiki only had the characters pages, Episode pages etc... As I said, the forum did not exist at that time, but we had a comment section on every single page, where people could discuss various themes, unclear Scenes, Exchange there views... And it was awsome. Unfortunately, it did not last for long. The reason why the forum was put in place was the increasing number of false info and petty fights. People would start to post their own views as facts, fight over interpretations, started insulting others when they didn't share their views etc... So there it was, the new forum, where people had more liberties, discuss tw Topics more personally etc... Yet some people were still not happy. Who left? Those who were actually committed to the wiki. Because, since then, (imo) the wiki became a mess, at least the forum part. That's the reason why I want things to stay the way they are.

I have nothing against you personally (although some of your statements seriously infuriate me). I'm guessing you are pretty young (15-16 tops, please correct me if I am wrong), which would explain why you won't let any other opinion count. This is actually quiet funny, because you are actually doing the very thing you keep accusing Paul of doing. The only difference is that you tell people who disagree with you that they fail to see the truth, or that their Interpretation is wrong... Which to me is the same as calling people stupid. Now eventhough they're no insults in your posts, the implied message is more than rude and offensive. To me the message is more important than the words used to communicate it.

I would like to urge you to try to look at the issue at Hand from our perspective and maybe show some understanding.

Please believe me when I say that I know where you are coming from. And it is true that giving more control to people sound's nice. I just strongly believe that more liberties and more people with creative control wont work for this wiki because of its main purpose: being an accurate source, an encyclopedia. Please let Paul, Dry and Killerkev keep continue to service this wiki in order to ensure that the high Standards of this Website can be maintained. This fight has already become very ugly, and it will get worse if you don't stop. Of course nobody can say how it will play out, but my guess is you won't come out on top.