Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24732895-20140622230817/@comment-13965604-20140702143313

Jestermonkey4u wrote: Paul.rea wrote: Jeff Davis clarified this in a tweet a long long time ago when he was still on Twitter regular like -

"@JeffDavis75: One tweet before I go to sleep: Stiles is not magic. But Mountain Ash is. #teenwolf""

And before someone asks - it was July 17, 2012 - his final tweet for the day. Thank you for clarifying Paul.

RemyObburnThanks. I was indeed only meaning what you've assumed. I like the points you've made here and in other threads. Great to have you here!

LadyX   You said your piece then asked to drop it. I replied with my piece then agreed to drop it. Three or four days later you call me out again so if anyone has an issue with this it seems to be you.

Grahamburglar& LadyX   My replies to you both have simply pointed out what the show has given us and the absurdity in believing the ash expands beyond the amount one has to accomplish the task at hand. Let me reiterate for the last time for you. As I've said several times, despite the fact that the ash is magic, it has never shown the ability to replicate. If it could then why would Stiles need a big bag of ash to begin with? If all you need is a handful and it will magically fill whatever size space you need it to, why carry anymore than that?

If that were the case and it multiplied wouldn't Deaton know enough to say, "Oh, just take a handful and imagine it holds all the ash you need, it'll be enough Stiles. Your belief will spark its multiplying ability"? For that matter, once you had a spoonful of it why would you ever need to gather or buy anymore, just imagine there is more as you pour it into a bigger container, right?! Uh...no.

Morrell, Jennifer and Melissa gave us more looks at ash barrier creation. In all three cases the "magical" part was in how the ash landed perfectly. The amount used by all 3 didn't seem to be disproportionate to the size of the barrier they created. In other words, the amount of ash they threw seemed to jive with the amount on the ground we saw. So when Stiles says he has about 50 ft. of ash and then suddenly he doesn't have anymore, I can only conclude that the last bit of ash slipping from his hand was part of that "about 50 ft." amount he said he had.

No matter where or when Stiles put the bag down or how the scene may have looked like he only had ONE handful of ash the facts are: Stiles says he has about 50 ft. of ash so that must be what he had...if that can fit in his hand or not doesn't change the fact that he had that amount of ash. The handful of magic fairy or pixie dust was said in a tone of exasperation. First he grabs a handful of ash and sets the bag down to call Scott, informing him  how much ash he has and not knowing if it's enough, then he freaks out a little about the gunshots and werewolves, etc. being around and then he tells Scott the dust quote because he is frustrated. Out of frustration he looks around, spots the bumper sticker and decides to just give it a go. He closes his eyes, psyches himself up and the next thing you know we see the ash leave his fingers as he opens his eyes and then jumps in relief at his completed circle.

That's the most circular logic I've seen in a while, even discounting the fact that you changed your tune from your earlier posts. Because your earlier posts said that you agreed that there was no way the amount of ash in his hand could have made a line as long as it did. And a circle around a person or a line across a door certainly isn't the same length as the line Stiles had to make. And you're doing the same thing you accused me of by bringing in 'could haves'

And, so you know, had you not responded to things I specifically said, after I wanted to drop it, I wouldn't have kept on. But you didn't. You didn't stop until I posted irrefutable fact from the scene that you claimed to watch eight times, that proves that Stiles did not have the bag, to be able to get more of it than his handful. Which, until now, you've agreed was impossible to make go in a fifty foot line unless magic was involved. Your entire stance has been that there was no magic involved. That Stile had the bag, and there was more in the bag than his handful, and they just had bad editing so that we didn't see him take it out of the bag.