Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-207.254.224.12-20140717193212/@comment-4091815-20140719193623

LadyX wrote: Ok, it's been fun reading all this stuff. But I feel like stepping in here. Everyone was saying Derek was a crap Alpha, when he was one. He lost two of his betas because he was a crap Alpha. Why are we arguing that Derek was better at Alphaing than Scott, and assuming that he's an average Alpha at all? They both suck at Alphaing, and need to go to Deucalion's Center for Alphas That Can't Alpha Good and Need to Learn Other Werewolf Stuff Good Too.

As for not taking the dialogue at face value that we have been given, because 'we don't know their experience' they were deliberately put in there for us to understand that outsiders find him exceptionally weak. Whether we know that Kincaid is a beta or an omega doesn't matter. He was presented as a character that gets around, and knows the seedy underbelly of Life, his word, while not law, should be trusted. The twin are in a similar situation of authority. Sometimes we don't have to know things by being told them, people are able to deduce things from context given. And I don't disagree with any of that.

I'm simply saying that Kincade and the Twins assesments - while informative - run contra to the visual examples that we have.

I'm not saying to ignore them - I'm saying we have yet to see an Alpha that is any better at Alphaing than Scott.