Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-544940-20160830143333/@comment-4723271-20160902171324

544940 wrote: JEK wrote: Killer kev wrote: I'm aware that Peter is intelligent but that isn't going to help him contain several Betas on a full moon. It was bc of this intelligence that he only turned one Beta. Its not like he was going to need a ton of help to kill a few humans. He actually did it by himself.

Argent said that an alpha is just like any other werewolf on the night of a full moon, they also struggle to maintain control. So, you're right about that, Derek most likely didn't attempt to make them submit bc he would risk losing control. He was holding back, it was him against three Betas, had Isaac not gained control, he was either going to have to kill them or they were going to kill him. Peter is smarter than Derek and he managed to avoid this. To be fair to Derek, Peter had the option of taking his time. Peter only chose ONE, because he figured he could eventually get Derek (an already experienced Beta) on side, and because he didn't have to worry about an army of Argents coming down on him in a matter of months (so he could take his time with Scott, manipulate him into a position where he had no CHOICE but to side with Peter; probably by getting him to kill somoene, which would have meant even Chris would have killed him, and Scott would have had no choice but turn to Peter or die).

He was incognito for a reason. He wanted the Argents to fumble around in the dark, having no clue where to even START to look for him, while he finished off the more vulnerable participants in the fire, and built his pack. Then he would have just killed them all (all of them, not leaving most of them alive, with all the information about who he was and why he did what he did), meaning that when Gerard showed up (which I'm certain Peter would have taken into account; if DEREK figured out that was coming, Peter certainly would have) he would have started off on the backfoot, with no more information than Chris had when he came to town. And in the meantime Peter could have continued to build his pack. So when the hunters came, Peter would have been ready for the fight.

Derek, on the other hand, was stuck. He had an army of hunters barrelling straight for him, and he desperately needed back-up. So he was forced to turn a handful of wolves all at once, rather than slowly build up over time. You're point on Gerard is valid/interesting but another thing to take note of is how Derek also knew of the Alpha Pack. I mean the last scene which confirms the Alpha Pack shows that them and the Argents where the main causes for him builiding up his pack. So Peter would've also probably prepared himself for that aswell.

Still to me it'd make more since if he made one or two more betas.((He was going to try with with Scott's mom)) I agree that Peter figured that he could get Derek to join the pack, but Peter couldn't have possibly known that Geread and the other hunters were coming. Gerard only came to town bc of Kate's death, he wanted revenge. There's no way Derek or Peter could've known they were coming beforehand. What they did know is that the Alpha Pack was on their way. Knowing the same thing, they took two different routes, Peter was more calculated, he turned one Beta, eventually hoping to get Derek on his side. Derek was sloppy, so he stupidly turned three Betas at once. It was too much for him to handle, two of them died and the other left.

Seeing what happened with Derek, I still Peter made made the better choice.