Board Thread:Legitimate Canon Questions/@comment-85.180.143.168-20150702014633/@comment-26819589-20150805054309

AlphaOfAlphas wrote: Sean 175 wrote:

T Angelus Ballack wrote:

Sean 175 wrote:

We are talking about the force the two generated when they rammed into each other. Which is considered equal, simply because the force effected ennis(an alpha on beta steroids)just as much as it did Scott. I don't think his ribs were damage. I don't think he was holding his chess either(I think it was his torso from were the twins had scratched him). Also, I don't think he was wheezing either. I think he was just breathing hard(seeing as a fast heart rate can make them shift).

Deucalion Cain getting through (apparently)just means it wasn't a supernatural object. He did it with physical strength.

I consider it a physical feat because humans simply can't rip skull apart. 😎 If you think Scott overcame the barrier with physical strength, then are you saying Deucalion could have done so too, or are you saying scott is physically stronger than deucalion.

I see where you are coming from, yes ripping a skull in that sense is a strength feat, but I meant a serious strength feat, ripping a skull in two is something that doesn't require that much super-strength. So while it is a strength fear, it's not an impressive one, on the scale we are talking about here I refuse to say that Deucalion can do it too(I don't see how he shouldn't though) as there is no proof he can or can't do it. In season 3 (a) episode one they said that Deucalion saw Scott as a potential threat. So the idea of Scott (possibly) being stronger than Deucalion, actually doesn't seem so far fetched especially seeing that he was just as shocked as Derek & Jennifer when Scott broke past the Mountain ash Barrier.

True. 😎 Scott was and is not stronger than Deucalion. This thread was created because Scott's pretty weak unless it's the finale of a season. Time and time again, we've discussed that the reason Deucalion left was not because of Scott and Derek's talk no jutsu, but because Jennifer healed Deucalions eyes, which could have even healed a part of his brain. This basically allows Deucalion to become a "visionary" again, and maybe change his ways.

Speaking of mountain ash, I think it would have been cooler if passing through the mountain ash barrier is something Scott can do as a True Alpha. It is what he did as he became a True Alpha, so it's already a feat greatly connected to him. It would show that mountain ash is used by the non-supernatural to protect themselves from the supernatural but as a True Alpha, the purest and most just Alphas of all, Scott could pass through it at will, as he'll never be a danger to those who need protection. It would be cool if one day, Scott masters his ability to the point where he can simply walk over it normally.

Back to the point: if Scott was such a threat, why didn't Deucalion just kill Scott before he became a True Alpha? Why didn't he just kill him immediately afterwards? I don't think we'll get answers for these. What do you guys think? We don't know if Scott is weaker or stronger than Deucalion, but we do know that Deucalion considered Scott a potential threat and that he was impressed by Scott breaking pass the mountain ash barrier. This thread was created because the person (obviously) is confused as to why Scott (a alpha)would be having trouble beating Liam (a werewolf with IED and a beta Derek claims to be strong). (IMO) He left because he was both grateful & possible intimated by seeing Scott break pass the mt.ash barrier(which according to deaton shouldn't be possible for no supernatural creature).

I think that would be cool too. The rest I'm not so sure about.

(IMO) it was because he was a man of vision. Who thought of Scott both as a potential threat & as a possible powerful ally he could have at his side. Would you try to take on a supernatural creature you just seen break a barrier that's not supposed to be able to be broken by any supernatural creature. 😎