Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-207.254.224.12-20140717193212/@comment-24642928-20140722193800

Mexiamerican55 wrote: ^ I like your argument a lot. Allow me to counter Scott's lack of physical prowess compared to Liam. Humans need to consciously exert themselves to perform more strenuous activity. Ex. I'm a boxer so I know a little bit more than most people. Anyone can throw a punch, but we need to consciously put power behind the punch. Why? Because we've experienced our bodies' limitations our whole lives.

Now on to Werewolves. The same can be said about experienced and non-experienced Werewolves. Inexperienced Werewolves will display their powers more easily because in THEIR minds, they're still normal so they subconsciously or consciously exert themselves. Experienced Werewolves are aware of that extra power they can call upon so they once again LEARN how to physically control their own bodies.

Liam continued to exert himself because normally, humans find their physical limits pretty easily. Liam was conciously trying bench as hard as he could just as he would if he were still normal, HOWEVER, he wasn't aware that his old physical limits no longer apply to him.

Just my 2 cents.

I hear your argument and it has some merit. Scott had to learn to control his abilities when he was first turned. E.g., so he's learned to control his hearing (so he's not overloaded by sounds), strength (so he doesn't hurt someone, etc.). But when he is consciously trying to do something, how does he get overpowered or his senses don't kick in. Yesterday he was on edge and attentive trying to check on the lacrosse player so you would think he would be actively aware of his surroundings but that girl still just walked up on him -- if she had a wolfsbane coated blade instead he should not have stood a chance.

It's funny you mentioned boxing. I was the thinnest and shortest kid in my neighborhood growing up so my father got me into boxing. Over the years, I hit a growth spurt and my body filled out. After a decade of boxing, my physical abilities greatly complemented the skillset I possessed. At my best, in my late teens I was an occassional sparring partner for Heavyweight champ Henry Akinwande. About 10 years ago, I hurt my shoulder and it never recovered properly and I gave up boxing.

Expanding on your example, boxing ability is an easy way to think about ability in teen wolf.

When I first started boxing at a young age (no skills, inexperienced, and weak), that may be like a brand new beta. 10 years later, when I had both physical power, speed and experience that may be like an experienced alpha (there were others that were better but only those with top talent and at their physical peak). At this point in life, maybe I'm more like an experienced beta. I am definitely nowhere near as strong or fast as I was but I could hold my own against a bodybuilder or college athlete that does not have my fight experience/ training. My strenghth, speed and endurance may be off (as well as my timing) but my thousands of rounds of ringtime and sheer "know how" count for a lot. Boxing is more than just physical power. How you plant your feet, move for efficiency, torque when throwing a punch, turn over your hand, strategy, etc. Even a really strong guy built like a house is only going to generate so much power if he doesn't know how to properly throw a punch and instead "arm punches" all day long.

In my mind, Scott as the true alpha should be a guy with "college athlete/ body building" physical capability. He's strong and maybe fast but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have his hands full with an experienced (or cunning) fighter that may not have his physicality. If the writers were smart, they would highlight Scott's power is there (and allow it to be displayed) but he still needs time and experience to increase and learn how to better utilize it. But when I see betas (let alone new betas) disregard him like he's nothing, that doesn't jive with that (an athlete/ body builder vs anyone should still not be something you completely disregard like that big beta did last year [forgot his name]).