Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4753851-20150702192053/@comment-26601629-20150714225110

it was strong but remember what deucalion could do, he hit derek so hard, it was like he just bounced off of a trampouline. Jennifer was essentially powerless against him, and this is after she had just taken out 3 alphas, One of them who was the second most powerful alpha IMHO, after deucalion (haven't seen enough of satomi yet, but bullet timing was cool). So i'm pretty sure old dukes was stronger.