Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-24732895-20160411234226/@comment-26879545-20160512141359

^ Just wanna point out two things.

1) Scott was referring to his eyes turning blue from killing Jennifer. We don't know if they would actually turn blue since she's far from innocent. However, as the show doesn't define what an "innocent life" is, his assumption that his eyes (should he hypothetically lose his Alpha spark) would turn blue is... questionable due to no canon definition of what constitutes an innocent life. She straight up murdered like... 13 people, maybe? Generally that wouldn't be classified as "innocent" in any sense of the word. ANYWAY, it certainly doesn't suggest that the no killing rule apply, though. All it really suggests is that Scott has the idea that if he were to kill Jennifer, his eyes would become that "cold blue" that comes with taking an innocent life. On this point, it's better to just leave it as an "agree to disagree" thing and carry on.

2) The Alpha pack members were still Alphas because they had the Alpha spark. The reason an Alphas eyes are red, as told to us in the show, is because of that extra "spark." They're still Alphas, even if they don't have a traditional pack. Scott could, again theoretically, kill his entire pack and keep his Alpha spark. There's only two or three ways to lose an Alpha spark on the show right now. One is by using the spark to heal someone (Derek & Cora), get killed by a beta (Peter), or get stabbed by Belasko's Talons (it would theoretically work on a regular Alpha. We don't have proof, since it was only used on Scott and it failed on him; but that's because of the True Alpha thing).

The rules on a True Alpha after becoming an Alpha are nonexistent at this point. The only things we have to go on are presented to us, either on screen, or via Jeff Davis interviews. Jeff Davis says that True Alphas aren't "werewolf Jesus" or "chosen ones." They're just another way to become an Alpha without killing/stealing. Based on that, we can assume that traditional "Alpha rules" apply to them, with the exception that their powers can only be stolen by their made betas; which was stated on screen (Peter said he couldn't steal Scott's power at the end of s4, then Deaton says it again during s5) and then outright shown when Theo killed Scott and didn't become an Alpha.

I will admit, this can all change in season 6. Rules tend to have a way of being changed by the next season, so we'll have to wait and see.


 * "You are arguing over stuff we don't know. We have actually no idea what would happen if Scott killed someone."

Which is, essentially, what I'm saying. Wri has been stating that Scott "will lost his True Alpha powers if he kills." I have been telling him, albeit with much greater detail, that stating that as fact is wrong because there is no canonical evidence to suggest the possibility that him killing will somehow make his extra spark vanish. I have also tried to explain that passing that off as fact/canon is a big no-no on this wiki.

In fact, here's what I said:


 * "Also, you might want to watch what you say. We don't know if he'd "lose his True Alpha status" after killing someone. To say that he would lose it if he killed someone or stole their power is incorrect and could be seen as passing headcanon as canon. "

And then, regarding my own theory (before someone tries to claim I'm doing the same thing):


 * "There's no evidence to support or disprove this theory because the show has given us little to no information about a True Alpha's restrictions after they become an Alpha."

With that, I'm officially done. Consider this current topic dropped on my end.