Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-98.166.214.56-20140711063258/@comment-14168656-20140714200632

My list:

1-Deucalion

2-Twins Merged

3-Alpha Peter

4-Kincaid

5-Kali

6 Ennis

7-Alpha Derek

8-Beta Derek

9-Scott

10-Boyd

11-Isaac

12-Erica



For clarification my list is just who would win in a fight not who is necessarily physically stronger. I am basing my list only off of the fights that we’ve seen. A few reasons why I went with the ranking I did:

Deucalion to me has to be at the top. He only had one fight, but since he fought two people who had had other fights themselves we can get a good relative comparison. The Darach (post 12 sacrifices) was strong enough to snap the merged twins neck instantly. And Derek, well, he’s lost his fair share of fights, but he’s not the weakest werewolf either. The two of them together could not even hurt him slightly. He is the only wolf who has never lost the upper hand during a fight even momentarily.

You could make the same arguments for the Twins merged as you could with Deucalion with one exception, the Darach (post 12 sacrifices). Every time someone fought the Twins it had to be at least two wolves (Scott & Isaac, Scott & Peter). They   were so strong that the first time Scott and Isaac went up against them Scott simply wanted to run and thought the idea of even having a chance to beat them was “crazy” (in his words).

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">People are arguing that Alpha Peter was really just intimidating in appearance and all hype, BUT let’s look at the Season 1 Finale fight again and really think about this. Peter was able to hold his own against a shifted Scott and Derek BEFORE he ever shifted. And were he not to have temporarily paused a few times when he did start to shift I don’t know if they would have got any hits on him at all. He threw Scott THROUGH A HOUSE. I did have to put him below Deuc and The Twins, because Scott was able to knock him down (which he could not do to either aforementioned), but I don’t see Peter having a chance at actually losing that fight had he not been SET ON FIRE with a Molotov Cocktail. People see to conveniently forget he didn’t lose that fight straight up.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Kincaid also required multiple werewolves to get beat. As has been mentioned here multiple times, Scott punched him in the face and Kincaid almost laughed at him. He did end up losing to the Twins, but since it required two werewolves to beat him, I can’t see putting anyone else above him besides Deuc, The Twins merged, or Alpha Peter.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Kali goes next in my book because she beat Derek twice. People are saying that it wasn’t a fair fight and that she’s not stronger than he, but the bottom line is both fights she had the upper hand. And let’s face it even Peter said to Derek, you couldn’t beat her as an Alpha. I just can’t see the arguments that Alpha Derek could beat her.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Ennis. Rewatch “Frayed.” Derek got some good hits in on him, BUT Ennis had the upper hand in that fight. Had Scott not scratched his leg, it’s possible that Ennis would have thrown Derek over that ledge (and not fallen with him). Just like Kali I can’t see any arguments for Alpha Derek beating him. But I do think that Alpha Derek was closer to Ennis than Kali.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Alpha Derek comes in at number 7 for me. People don’t like that because they like Derek, but I feel pretty confident everyone above him on my list has or would beat him in a fight.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">I put Beta Derek at 8 based on his fights with Scott. In Season 1 he beat Scott, but Scott was able to get a few good hits on him. Season 2 in Ice Pick, Derek basically punked him with little effort.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Next is Scott Alpha or Beta. I’ve already described where Beta Scott stacked up against Derek, and Alpha Scott does not seem to be any stronger than Beta Scott. A punch from Alpha Scott could not even hurt Kincaid. That’s why he said that Scott didn’t have Alpha strength. The Twins couldn’t beat Kincaid by themselves, but had one of them hit him directly in the face, it would have done more than Scott did.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;">Boyd, Isaac and Erica had all lost to Scott, but they haven’t really seen a lot of fights to really determine their exact rank among them. So I just took my best guess.

<span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">To me the Twins individually, Cora, and Beta Peter haven’t really had any fights to be able to judge where they should be.