Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4723271-20170918140954/@comment-13895380-20170924142921

Paul.rea wrote: I don't know if you are misrembering or ignoring the fact that both Scott and Malia sucked at echolocation. They were on to thermolocation before they could "see" anything.

Gerard has been a week ahead of everybody this whole season, you really don't think he's keeping tabs on the pack? Everyone knows who they are, what cars they drive and where they live. I think you're underestimating how powerful this group's network makes them.

Add to those overwhelming numbers the fact that Gerard was very successful at tracking and killing werewolves for a very long time before we met him in a weakened state (cancer). He's been setting stuff up for months before the season began, ever since he was cured in Season 5.

I'm not happy about the way it went down, but I'm also not surprised given who the pack is up against. " Remember, Scott had just finished beating Malia and Deucalion with his eyes closed, so using echolocation, he or Deucalion had to have heard footsteps or the sound of a car right before Lydia came." - AlphaOfAlphas

I specifically said Scott ("he") or Deucalion because Scott had clearly learned how to use echolocation at that point, and you're ignoring that Deucalion is a master at it, and chose this location because it was reserved. If he heard any footsteps or car noises from other people he should have been alerted. And even when it comes to Malia, she can definitely hear from far away. The only problem was that she couldn't pinpoint their exact movement but she has always been able to figure out someone's general location through sound, as every other werewolf has. Do you not remember how many times we've seen supernaturals pick up on a sound from very far away, allowing them to track someone (*cough* 6x18 *cough*)? So even Malia should have been able to hear intruders when they were practicing echolocation. :P

I understand what Gerard can do, but how exactly does that change what happened at the end of the episode? It was still set up poorly. Supernatural hearing is only a thing when it's convenient to the plot. Humans can hear vehicles approaching even when they're talking. Why wouldn't werewolves be able to do the same? In such a remote area, normal humans should have been able to hear the cars approaching.

If you still don't believe or can't admit that there is inconsistencies in this show when it comes to supernatural hearing, recall when Liam was hit by a car by one of the teenage assassins in season 4. He was literally facing one direction, turned for a split second, and a car came out of nowhere and hit him, with no sound. Are you seriously suggesting that just because they decided to play the audio of the car at that split second, that the car never made any noise as it accelerated...or moved for that matter? Cars make noises, there is no way a car should have been able to sneak up on Liam in a split second...when Liam was just facing that direction! The car hit him coming from the same road he was running on. Forget hearing it, he should have seen it! XD

One more point: notice how in every other situation, the bad guy makes up a dumb excuse to hesitate killing a main character? In the next episode, the hunters literally wait until Liam backs up near the elevator, until they hear an elevator reach the level, until the door opens and until Theo can get a hold of Liam before they start shooting him? Yet one of the henchmen kills Deucalion on sight? You have to admit that this just proves the accuracy and urgency of a henchman's shot just depends on whether the writers want to keep the character alive. Yes, I know they are different henchmen but this pattern occurs throughout the history of the show.

Eh, this is going to be my last post about this. Yes, I'm salty that Deucalion died (I mean, I named myself after him XD) but I'd say I'm salty for legitimate reasons, as the death seemed unwarranted.