Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-199.73.60.166-20141220181643/@comment-65.93.139.213-20150623041957

LadyX wrote:

65.93.139.213 wrote:

JEK wrote: 65.93.139.213 wrote: Then I guess I do. :P So.........you'd prefer short-lived, tragic, and thoroughly pointless romances than actual, functional, caring relationships that could conceivably make a person happy and stand the test of time?

And I'm not saying that I necessarily think that's what Scott/Kira are (I'd say it's far too early to tell on that front) but still. They've got a chance of being that. And as much as I liked Scott/Allison, I never really saw that being in the cards for them. Seeing that you quoted only the first part of my statement, I guess you just ignored the rest.

I'd rather see two teens passionate falling deeply in love for each other, and them still oving each other beyond all the obstacles they've faced, then a COMPARATIVELY boring "romance" that lacks the passion that we saw with Scott and Allison. I'm not saying that Scott and Kira are a boring couple - i said they were cute together - they are just a shade of the connection that we've experienced with Scott and Allison.

And as for what you said, Scott and Allison's relationship was NOT short lived. They were together for 2 seasons, but clearly still had feelings for each other despite their situation. That's why it was indeed tragic when Allison died. She died in her first love's arms, and it was very satisfying because she admitted that she still loved him, which was ambiguous due to their complex relationship, and the presence of Isaac and Kira. It was even more tragic that Isaac was there when she died, but she still said it, which shows how special Scott was to her for her to accept that that was Isaac's last memory of her. What's most amazing is that Scott couldn't even take pain away from her, thus proving that her love for him was pure -- that it was beyond anything physical, like that of a fatal wound. That is true love.

Their relationship being "thoroughly pointless" is purely subjective. Nothing distinguishes their romance from being pointless more than any other remance in the show...Scott and Kira, Stiles and Malia, Derek and Braden, Erica and Boyd, Ethan and Danny...At least their true love appleid to the plot, as it was constantly being tested by their obstacles rather than just being a side plot for viewers who watch the show for the cute actors and actresses. I mean, for peace sakes, Allison was Scott's ANCHOR to control his werewolf powers. Did you not watch Season 1? They're relationship was actually mattered towards the plot, and there is no other relationship besides Lydia and Jackson that mattered more.

And how exactly are Scott and Kira much more realistic than Allison and Scott? I didn't know that there was superficial criteria that "defines" whose relationship is "actual" or not...lol. Allison and Scott's relationship was much more caring, and made them much more happy. And there is no telling how long Kira and Scott will be together. So basically, you've given no differences that are valid against Scott and Allison. And yes, you're essentially saying or at least assuming that's what Kira and Scott are because you're already suggesting that their relationship is better than Scott's former one with Allison.

Sorry, I'm not trying to offend you, and I'm not mad. I just had a lot to talk about in regards to this discussion. Firstly, you posted two comments, he quoted the first.

Scott and Allison's two season relationship was all of two, maybe three, months long. Even by teenager standards that's fairly short. Scott not being able to draw her pain when she was dying proves nothing about their true love. All it proved was that she was too far gone to save. It's a common occurance in people dying that they stop feeling anything before they die.

We really don't know how important Malia and Stiles relationship is, or Scott and Kira's. It's been mentioned by Jeff and others that last season was a reset, and setting up for future events. And her being his anchor was repeatedly frowned upon by everyone.

Scott and Kira are more realistic in that most relationships aren't fallen into as fast and deeply as Scott and Allison and they don't end in death before the honeymoon period is over. You're being entirely subjective in saying Scott and Allison were more caring and more happy together than Scott and Kira. Acura is healthier in that neither of them feel the need to change who they are for the other, unlike Scott when he was with Allison. I am well aware that I posted twice, by accident. When I made the first post, I tried stopping the page from loading so I could elaborate on my thoughts, but it ended up sending the first one. Nonetheless, both the original and refined comments were posted long before he made his comment, so he surely saw the refined one and neglected it, at least in the quote. It's not that big a deal.

This is a show. By a show's standards -- especially a show geared towards teenagers and young adults, which usually feature volatile relationships -- 2 seasons is a very long length, not to mention that they still loved each other afterwards, which was both subtly and explicitly clear.

No, from the context of the scene, it was clear that she felt no pain because she was in Scott's arms, her true love. It was a stab wound, she was still losing blood, and she was very conscious. All those points suggest that she should feel pain. It wasn't simply a physical phenomena, and the writers made it clear, as it was first, and foremost, a love confession scene.

Allison being Scott's anchor being repeated frowned upon by "everyone" (excepting those who enjoyed or were okay with it :p trust me, there are people who did not hate it), does not change the validity of the point I made. Whether people liked it or not, Allison's importance to Scott was deeply meaningful to the story and his progression as a werewolf. This was a rebuttle to JEK's point that their romance was "pointless". If any romances mattered towards the series' plot, they were Scott and Allison, and Jackson and Lydia.

I know I'm being subjective in saying that Scott and Allison's relationship is more caring and happy than Scott and Kira's. That's my opinion, as it is JEK's the other way around. However, there is much more evidence suggesting Scott and Allison's relationship was more intimate. You know why? Because, as you said, he really don't know that much about Scott and Kira's relationship, because they haven't shown as many intimate moments as they did with Scott and Allision. :)

Maybe they will in Season 5, but for now, I'd have to take Scott and Allison over Scott and Kira. And I really like Kira.