Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4723271-20170105223549/@comment-4723271-20170107064925

Eli-TheAlpha wrote: Killer kev wrote: I like how you conveniently skipped over season 1, when he didn't have anyone that could even come close to filling that role as Alpha. Derek? Is that the Alpha he should've trusted? You can't be serious. Scott had absolutely no reason to trust him. Derek was shady, and he had just screwed Scott over in his only chance at being human again. Remind me again why he should've trusted Derek. One incident doesn't make Scott a reckless person. Liam has proven on multiple occasions that he's very reckless, doesn't always think things through.

None of that other stuff you just said has anything to do with what we're talking about. Scott was forced to do most thing himself bc he was his own Alpha. He never had the same privilege as Liam, to have another werewolf trust to guide him through. Bringing Theo back was more than a misstep, it was blatant stupidity. He's a sociopath that actually killed one of them, and several others. Scott had no reason to trust Derek? The guy who protected him from hunters numerous times in season 1+2 and saved his life in every season he was in, yeah I wouldn't trust that guy either. Derek didn't screw Scott's only chance at being human, he admitted he only because he needed help killing the Alpha.

It wasn't one incident either all of season 1+2 was reckless when he tried dating the daughter from a family of werewolf hunters, every decision that Scott has individually made with the imput of others have been reckless and it has been stated by other characters that his plans are terrible.

And Scott was not at all forced to do things on his own, he chose to do so because he didn't like Derek way of doing things because of his hero complex.

Everything I mentioned has everything to do with it because Liam has a lot more to deal with than Scott did and Liam has only been manipulated by one character while Scott continuously keep past villains arounds in such a casual sense that they can provide a story time episode; for example season 3 episode 8. I doubt Liam is just gonna get blantantly manipulated by Theo again since he does actually know things that they don't and he doesn't want to go back to his superntural prison. Once again, Derek was shady. He was very untrustworthy. For a moment, they even though he was the killer. Yes, Derek saved Scott a couple times but he wasn't doing it out of the goodness of his heart. Derek needed Scott to find the Alpha. That's why he kept him alive. Derek told Scott that he'd heard rumors that you can cure yourself by killing the one that bit you, Derek later went on to kill Peter despite Scott pleading with him not to. So explain to me how Derek didn't screw Scott's only chance at being human.

Terrible planning doesn't make him reckless, dating a hunter's daughter does but they soon realized how dangerous it was and broke up permanently. So what's your point? Scott isn't nearly as impulsive and reckless as Liam. This isn't even debatable. Scott's didn't know Derek, so why would he trust him? So no, he didn't have much of a choice. Scott had Stiles to help him through most of it. That's it.

Liam has more to deal with? How about we talk about how Liam has more help now than Scott ever did when he first became a wolf? The only person he could regularly trust for assistance was Stiles, the rest came later on. Liam has Scott, Lydia, Malia, Mason, Hayden, Corey, Argent, Deaton etc. He has all these people and resources that Scott didn't when he first began. What does Scott not killing his past enemies have to do with manipulation? Theo's a manipulator. Liam reacts more than he thinks.