Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-26601629-20150721193153/@comment-26601629-20150820015556

Dude you misunderstand me, when I say rules don't auto tansfer, I meant. In a VS battle between 2 different universes, absolutely rules that limit a character, like for example say there was a prophecy that the King in Lord of the rings can't be defeated by a man, only a woman, and said king was fighting the hulk. Then you say because the hulk is a man, he can't win. But for the case of an ability between two separate universes. One possesses the power of mind control(in the form of hallucination) and the character from the other universe has shown resistance to this kind of attack, then that ability while it can still be used, would not be considered as effective as it normally is. These are two different cases., If you are indicating that, the ability can't be overcome, then that is essentially a No Limit Fallacy. On what basis do you base the power of the hallucination, what makes you conclude that the DD's are more powerful. Even Lydia was able to recover from the hallucination(Even though pain wouldn't have been used since she's not a werewolf), and here we are talking about a drug that induces hallucination to the point of madness, and arrow was overdosed on this. Even on TW, wasn't the nogitsune's illussion broken by willpower.

You keep saying, no known weakness. A character does not need to have a weakness to be beaten. I gave an example of this once before, the nogitsune's weakness was to change it, yet if you left it alone in a room with the sentry, hell even the hulk, he'd be blown away, my point, the dread doctors don't need to have a known weakness, we've only seen people try to punch them, how do we know how they'd react if I shot one of them with an RPG., It's like the concept of Originals saying klaus is indestructible except for a stake, yet if i chained him down and used a chainsaw on his head in all the right places or fed him through a wood chipper, would he reform.

I also never said arrow could beat wells 1 on 1, cos he cant, he could just stab him before the fight starts( which by the way is what selene would do to the dread doctors, she'd blitz them), you said wells, after getting his speed back could have killed arrow, and I said arrow could also have killed wells when the nanotech took away his speed.

Yes Malcolm caught the arrows, as did helena, and the league are able to intercept each others arrow, you know why, because they are master archers, they know where the arrow is going to hit because of their super human accuracy, and helena caught one because she said she'd straight up being praticing and knew arrow was going to kill her, and he always went for the heart, she knew where to catch it from. Deucalion is neither of this things, but he might well be able to catch it. But Arrow has experience fighting against people who can catch his arrows like barry, he can make them explode, use them as a distraction to set up other attacks. Yes Satomi dodges a bullet and here comes the inconsistency of Teen Wolf, having reaction speed to dodge rapid fire bullets puts you at SUPERSONIC speed, lol do you believe anyone in Teen wolf is that fast, that is an outlier. Deucalion is prolly the fastest wolf on teen wolf, and he's only faster than the eye can see at best, to make a leap and call werewolves on Teen wolf supersonic is just funny, bullets Move anywhere from Mach 1 - 3, and to dodge rapid fire, you's need higher reaction speeds to compensate, unless the person shotting squeezes the trigger repeatedly meaning only one direction, so you'd only need to move away from the first bullet's general area, that wouldn't be bullet timing but aim dodging and that is something even humans can do(Aim dodging). And they DD haven't shown any speed feat, maybe because they haven't had to or hey don't have it, we don't know, so it will be wrong to assume they have that kind of speed.

Slade's and Oliver's fight always went back and forth, what do you mean he'd have had the chance to kill him, that makes no sense.

You're talking of the second encounter with Oliver right?, Yeah he straight up charged Oliver while they were making conversation, Slammed him against a wall and injected him with some blood clotting thing. But Oliver lost yeah. But the first proper fight they had despite his brute strength Oliver made use of his environment and trick arrows like he always does.

Against the 3 DD, I'm firmly sure it could go either way depending on the situation.

Without Knowledge of each Opponent, Oliver could prolly take one down and end up losing.

With Knowledge and Oliver's usual prep, I see this going to Oliver 9 times out of 10. The Only thing I see them using against Oliver that will be bad is invisibility, and even this hasn't been confirmed that they have it, and to combat invisibility, with prep arrow couls use a smoke bomb arrow., There's nothing to indicate the doctor's can see in a smoky environment.

Lemme Ask you a few questions,

What would happen if the Doctor's where shot with an explosive arrow, What would happen if the Doctor's were shot with tranquilizers, how would any of their powers help them in this situation.