Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-26601629-20150715192253/@comment-6383956-20150718045329

T Angelus Ballack wrote: Lol,  I think he was going to be killed off, but was so awesome and fans loved him soo much, they brought him back, same with angel. I didn't care much for him initially, then i started to notice him from his whole Angelus destruction of the world thing, when he said something like

"A lot of people talk about destroying the world, but I actually like this world, with things like racing, Manchester united, and billions of people walking like happy meals with legs, but Angelus, he could actually pull it off"

That killed me really, from then I started to like him a litlle more, and when he was talking passions on the show, he was just freaking hilarious. I think the time i really started to enjoy a lot as a character was when he was scaring people on the street because "he couldn't do evil". and he was just plain awesome on Angel Season 2 was a whole season of Joss being like "I know I planned some stuff but.... nope."

See, first he was going to have the Annointed One be the initial Big Bad (before Angelus) but the problem with having a vampire played by an actor in that age group is.... those actors age fast. And vampires don't age. So, the kid had a growth spurt and Joss was like "either the Big Bad never stands up or I need a new one."

So he made Spike. And it's really ridiculous that a character created as a Plan B became one of the most popular characters of the entire Buffyverse -- especially since, like JEK said, Spike was supposed to die in the church collapse in "What's My Line Part 2". But as we all know, that didn't happen. (This was the first time Spike was saved, this time it was because Joss was having fun with him.) Then Spike was supposed to be written out at the end of Season 2 (as he was, technically, since he skipped town) but there was so much positive fan feedback they decided to give him one last hurrah in the "Lover's Walk" episode of Season 3. And the episode got such great ratings and had so much positive feedback, they brought him back for Season 4 and kept him ever after. So Spike went through a *lot* of being saved behind the scenes. :P

Also, Angel was initially not supposed to come back to life after Season 2, but David Boreanaz gave such a great performance in "I Only Have Eyes For You" that Joss decided he wanted to give David his own series. The only reason Angel was in Season 3 at all was to set up the spin-off. (Which is a brilliant series, isn't it?)

....just so we stay vaguely on topic for this Wiki.... it's kinda like how Jeff Davis has had to keep changing plans for Teen Wolf! :P