Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-50.67.152.227-20140201055654/@comment-11260666-20140203034243

DManCO wrote: There are those who might argue that Stiles was simply too much of a realist, whereas Scott is an idealist. Was Scott going to make first line? No. He was having trouble breathing just roaming the woods trying to keep up with Stiles! Is it plausible that on a team captained by Jackson Whittemore (major douche) and coached by Bobby Finstock (so obsessed with winning that he will happily send injured players back into the game) that Scott would have actually made first line had he not been bitten by Peter and cured of his asthma?

Stiles has a tendency to seem like the wet blanket, or even coldly pragmatic. A lot of people noticed that when he suggested that they might actually have to kill Jackson. Stiles is often the one that has to point out the harsh realities of a situation. Scott was idealistic about Jackson and wanted to save him. Jackson subsequently murdered several police officers, people Stiles had probably known for years!

Was it likely, when he dragged Scott out that night, that Stiles didn't really believe that Scott was going to make first line regardless of whether he got a good night's sleep or not? Probably. At least their nocturnal adventure would have provided an excuse when Finstock, who only wanted top players on the field and benched everyone else, inevitably brutally crushed Scott's dream. If he didn't then Jackson would have the very first time Scott was out of breath on the field. Stiles is smart and he knows that would have happened. The only reason it didn't was that Scott became a werewolf and suddenly had superhuman physical abilities and no asthma.

I commented on another thread, that if you actually dissect the show you discover that Scott almost never actually solves any of the problems or eliminates any of the threats. Either Derek does it for him or somebody else does. Heck, it was Stiles and Lydia that stopped the Kanima, not Scott! The resolution of S3a was even worse. Derek basically stopped Jennifer and Deucalion killed her. All Scott did was break through a ring of Mountain Ash. But given his track record it is doubtful he would have carried through with his threat to kill her before everybody died in the cave-in.

So is Stiles a "negative" friend? Or is he the realist that balances Scott's idealism? Because when you break down the last three seasons, Scott generally participates in dealing with the threats, but he is never the one that resolves them. In many ways he has to be negative, because Scott's positivity can cost lives. A whole bunch of dead police officers proves that.

Hey, no disagreements from me. I actually really like and agree with everything you wrote. Plus you kind of confirmed my point on Stiles' negativity, which is just realism. Stiles thinks with his mind and not with his heart, like Scott.

My goal for part one of my post was to show people that head canon makes things seem like Stiles is a weak victim who never does anything wrong and is never negative in any way, when in fact he is more of a negative person because he thinks with his mind and not his heart. Yes every now and again his emotions will get involved when it comes to his family or Scott, but usually he's very real and points out the darker reality that most want to ignore.

Side note: This was the exact difference between Clark and (my favorite character) Chloe in Smallville.

Stiles isn't an angel. He has a negative (or real) side as well as a possessive side, which means he can not like Isaac just because he thinks Isaac is getting too close to his best friend. I'm not saying that's the case, but I am saying that it's possible.