Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-4753851-20150702192053/@comment-71.236.1.182-20150712150136

AlphaOfAlphas wrote: 71.236.1.182 wrote:

AlphaOfAlphas wrote:

JEK wrote: Mgc26133 wrote: well, not canon yet, but it may be another explanation. also, Tracy was half transformed, so she might not have been at her best either. Considering that Tracy appeared to have had an extremely negative reaction to whatever they did to her, which involved instances where she simply spaced out and hallucinated craziness, or damn near collapsed whilst drooling liquid mercury...........I'd say that you might be onto something there. ;)

Oh, and about the other things:

Recovery time: Well, way back in S2, Derek recovered completely relatively quickly once he attempted to trigger the healing process (honestly, the events that transpired couldn't have covered more than 20 minutes between the time he was paralysed and the time he got up and started brawling with Jackson again) and Stiles was barely able to drag himself along the ground at that point in time. That lines up with Deaton/Stiles recovery in this episode, doesn't it? Barely capable of moving without help, at the same time as Alpha Scott/Derek was just managing to pull himself together? And as for Malia getting up earlier..........well, she got slashed a single time, not particularly deeply, by the venom-coated tail, whereas Scott was slashed across the face/neck by multiple claws. It's plausible that (given the rules that were established) that Malia might recover first. Probable? Maybe not, but certainly possible.

The Tail: Well, it actually WAS used offensively. It was the Kanima's go-to weapon in S2.......you know, the thing it would use to whip past your defences and slash you across the back of the neck? It rarely used its claws to do the same job. Throw in the massive blood loss, and the sudden loss of her ability to balance, and again, it's plausible that Malia could have managed to force her into a position where she'd be compelled to submit..........of course, she didn't, she simply "woke up", which ended the fight prematurely. If Tracy had been an actual Kanima, as Jackson was, I don't think it would have gone anywhere CLOSE to as well as it did for Malia. In fact, I'm pretty sure that an actual Kanima, one that was incapable of just.......giving up, would have nicked her with its claws from its position underneath her, and then proceeded to tear her apart. But Tracy wasn't, and she didn't, and Malia won. Sort of. Also, in regards to the paralyzing time, no, that does not line up. Derek was able to get up and have full control to fight the Kanima much before Stiles could move properly. I mean, Scott had to carry Stiles for a quite a time, while Derek could already move on his own. But in this episode, Stiles had almost just as much control of his body as Scott did when Theo was there, and I find this ironic because in the same episode, Deaton claims that Scott and Malia should be able to move "much before" him and Stiles could. Also, the Kanima's venom never needed to be cut deep in order to work effectively (it only needed to touch the skin), though in this episode it did. Actually it does line up. As when Derek was trying to trigger the healing process(by digging his claws into his leg), stiles asked him was it working. Derek said he thought so,because he could feel his toes moving to which stiles replied he could feel his toes moving as well. Later, when Scott (finally)went to check on Derek & stiles. Derek was (barley & sluggishly might I add) standing up already, he then told Scott to get stiles to safety.

~ Sean 😎 No, it clearly does not line up. Just cause they could both feel their toes, does not mean they gained control at the same time. You have to follow the parts after that. Derek had enough control to move while Scott had to carry Stiles. Later on, to further my point, Derek was up and ready to fight far before Stiles was able to control his body, who was still crawling after Derek was ready to fight the Kanima. See? You are probably correct (about the toes thing at least). As I always thought the toes thing was supposed to be the show showing us they were both starting to recover, but because of Derek's advanced healing, he still recovered first. *shrug*

Anyway, S5 stiles was not fully recovered. Just like S2 stiles, he could only move his head & arms. As he (& deaton )had to lean his whole body on the table to stay standing up. While Scott could (almost) practically stand on his own feat.

Name: Sean 😎