Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-207.254.224.12-20140717193212/@comment-99.170.226.119-20140723214324

LadyX wrote: 99.170.226.119 wrote: LadyX wrote: 99.170.226.119 wrote: 99.170.226.119 wrote: 66.87.115.154 wrote: The fights with Kincaid and the berserkers and somewhat the twins The writers were "trying" to be logical with the Kincaid fight. I think the fandom is upset that Derek held out a bit longer than Scott, seeing as Scott was mostly trying not to fight them as it was suicide. The twins made it very clear that if Scott wanted to kick their a** all he had to do was shift which he was to scared. I was upset to at Scott not being able to be Kincaid. But after a while I figured out why.

Name: Sean I meant "beat"

How is it logical that an Alpha, whose best friends life is on the line, wouldn't be able to beat one beta/omega? If that weren't a reason to go all out, what is? It's just like watching one of those Kung fu movies were the they show the hero beating up 20 to 100 people who are the same size if not slightly taller. Some of them(if not all) are highly skilled in Kung fu as well.

But the hero easily (sometimes with slight difficulty) beats them all, only to face one more guy who is bigger & (usually) stronger, right before he fights the boss. We see that the hero has a hard time dealing with the big guy. As his Kung fu moves are having little to know effect on the big guy. He eventual defeats the big man, but not as easily as he did with the others. I think that this is what they were kinda trying to do in teen wolf.

The writers saw that Kincaid(& the actor playing him) was bigger than Scott & probably thought that it would be only logical to make Kincaid a tough opponent for Scott to fight. as big guys are usually stronger & more durable than guys like Scott & Derek who mostly rely on their superior agility & stamina. I also believe that "True Alphas" have a special ability only unique to them that's called "Will Empowerment". Because of this I think that Scott would have beaten Kincaid eventually if the twins weren't their. In other words I think Kincaid was just suppose to be a tough opponent that Scott would have eventually beat.

I also think the dialogue was simply so the twins can have something witty to say when they entered the fight.

PS: Scott shifting was a sign that he was going all out.

Sean

You are making a lot of headcanon up that doesn't jive with what is actually canon. Scott would t have own against Kincaid. He needed the twins, or else the scene wouldn't have been written the way it was. If he could've won with a little extra time, they would've done it. It might work that way 'in real life' but on a show, every scene costs money, every line costs money, not only money, but every scene and line progresses a story a certain way. You want to discount everything that actually happened for a potential 'could've' that isn't even supported by other scenes. I wasn't discounting anything(at least not trying to). It's like u said. Why would Scott (someone who uses his power to help & protect the people he loves) hold back against Kincaid when his enemy is holding something that can save his best friend. We can't really say that he's just plain weak either. Seeing as how he was able to break pass the mountain ash barrier, something that no other alpha werewolf has done(at least not on the show).

You ask me how Scott losing to Kincaid was logical. I gave you my answer. I also tried to give u an example. But I guess I confused u. So let me explain it this way. This is were my quotation marks come in for when I said that they were "trying" to be logical.

Kincaid was big Scott was puny. Kincaid was the hulk Scott was Captain America. Why did they make Scott lose? Because they needed to get the twins involved to show that the twins could be a great addition to Scott's pack & that they still had their same old habits also because they were included in the heist plan(they were extras). Do I even have to tell u how fans would have reacted if Scott had lost to someone no taller than Derek & had the same body mass as Scott himself, not to mention that person being an omega.

The dialogue was just a way for the twins to have something snappy to say to make their entrance look cool. Which I thought was cute seeing as they have been the punks in every pack they've been in. By headcanon are u talking about my True Alpha Theory?

Name: Sean