Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-2.2.143.109-20140810222158/@comment-2020973-20170906023318

Killer kev wrote: 1. Again, you're speculating by saying it as if its facts, when its not. It was never said that the 'transformation goes wrong and reflects what you are'. The only creature that was confirmed as being a wrongful mutation was the Kanima.

2. You do reliaze that this entire discussion is about genes? Werewolves are grentically different from humans. Genes mutate, and your enitre point is that Kate mutatated, therefore, you are talking about genes, whether you relaize it or not.

3. You're saying that bc one creature is considered an abomination, they all are? Doesn't work that way. You can assume it all you want but that doesn't change the fact that its unsupported speculation. It was never said that all werewolf bites/scratches would end in a werewolf being created, therefore its untrue to say Kate and Seb are mutations just bc they're not werewolves. That was never a rule. No one said that the transformation into werewolf rate was 100%. Derek said that its rare and that it happens for a reason, but he never said they were all mutations. It was specifically said that the Kanima was a wrongful mutation.

4. More speculation on the part with Sebastien.

Its never once been said that when a creature takes on the shape they reflect, that its always going to be considered an abomination within the supernatural community. No such thing as unspoken canon. Canon is either seen or heard on screen. 1. That was the whole theme for Jackson in season 2. His feelings of isolation and lack of identity because he was an orphan made him mutate from a werewolf into a kanima. And it has been stated several times that sometimes the bite can go wrong and a person can be something other than a werewolf.

2. I think genes has little to nothing to do with the shifters on Teen Wolf. They are supernatural beings. Although there are cearting scientific bits that have been included to their existance the main supernatural component to the supernatural is magic. How else do you get a giant lizard or a blue cat from a werewolf bite? Just because they use terms like mutation on the show doesn't mean they are using it in the same context we are used to using it in real life. I am not saying it was Kates genes that made her change. I am saying she is such a sick psychotic bitch that it caused a SPIRITUAL cause and effect, just like with Jackson and Sebastion.

3. So far we have only seen three people have odd transformations of all the werewolves introduced in the show. And why wouldn't they turn into werewolves? That is the whole point of people being bitten by an alpha is to make more little werewolves (assuming they survive) and although Derek did say things like this was rare and that the bite doesn't always take, he nor anyone else has said that beings like Kate or Sebastian are NOT mutations or abominations. I am not saying they are all considered abominations. I am just saying in the unspoken world of Teen Wolf some wolf packs might see shifters (especially kanima) or even werejaguars that manifest from a bite as abominations. Simply because that is their own point of view or they are simply predjeduced. And why would a werejaguar come from a werewolf bite unless it was a mutation? Jaguars and wolves are two seperate species.

4. Jeff has stated in an interview that Sebastian was so evil it altered his transformation. Techniqually he is still a werewolf but I still consider him a mutation because we have never seen a werewolf like him on the show. For crying out loud he transformed using shadows!

Not every wolf pack in the world is all happy and mixed-shifter like Scott's is or peaceful like Satomi. Look at Ethan and Aiden's pack or Kali. If they had someone turn into a jaguar or lizard you think they wouldn't be jerks and call them abominations or just try to kill them? Besides it was Stiles who used that term not Derek. I agree with you about cannon being seen or heard onscreen but sometimes you have to use cannon to go on what has been unspoken and unseen. And we can't rely on science too much because these are supernatural beings with their own set of rules that sometimes do overlap with the natural world.