Board Thread:False Info and Speculative Discussion/@comment-25176701-20150818031151/@comment-13965604-20150820131312

JEK wrote: LadyX wrote:

AlphaOfAlphas wrote:

T Angelus Ballack wrote: The conversation was just weird., They wanted to drive that wedge between them, like seriously, do it in a better way.

Stiles doesn't once claim it was an accident even though it was

Scott doesn't once ask why he kept hitting donovan until his skull caved in if it was self defense.

Scott doesn't once question whether stiles really was able to keep bashing a persons skull.

All of these things were absent from the conversation.

Stiles just basically ignored the fact that he hadn't intentionally killed donovan and kept saying he was going to kill my dad, even though at that specific point Donovan was going to kill him.

Did he even say he was trying to kill me?

And then he says I'm sure you'd have found a better way if it was you. That was almost like saying I did this intentionally because I had no choice. Yeah, why didn't Stiles mention that in that moment, Donovan was trying to kill him...

Why didn't he even mention that it was an accident...

Yes, it was self-defense, but I don't think Stiles pulled the pin out with the intention of killing Donovan.

LadyX, can you please tell me when this happened in the show? When Stiles lied to a werewolf before? Required Reading. I believe he was talking to Malia, but I'm not sure. He had been rubbing his shoulder and someone asked him what was wrong with it and he said that the Jeep's hood fell down on it. When we the audience know that that was where Dinivan but him. I was under the impression that she knew that he was lying to her? I mean, I took that to be one of the reasons why she didn't come clean about her memory of the DW; that Stiles wasn't being honest with her, about something that was clearly messing with his head.

"shrugs"

It made sense to me at the time (as why else wouldn't she trust Stiles with that information? Seeing as how he was helping her look for the DW, and knew more than just about anyone how dangerous she was coming across as, and that as far as I know Malia had never lied to or withheld information from him before). Just another little thing that contributed to the massive lack of communication between the members of the Pack; everyone's caught up in their own problems, and none of them want to share with the others.

I thought for sure they focussed on his heart beat and it was steady? So if his heartbeat was steady how would they know it was a lie?

And Malia has reason enough to keep things from him even if she didn't know he was lying. He kept Peter from her in a season of everyone keeping secrets, it's not surprising. No one except Stiles really has had any reason to keep secrets from anybody.