Board Thread:COMPLETE BULLSHIT Forum/@comment-24668959-20140312223449/@comment-24642928-20140318181601

Paul.rea wrote: Speculation is to take known facts and, based on facts, present a theory about a possible outcome.

What we've been getting, specifically on those threads you mentioned, is full blown narrative of past events that are not based on the facts as we know them. That is fan fiction and, in the context of this encyclopedia site, that is total BS.

[Ignoring some of the theories from Foxtino and other similar postings, I guess I’m just confused as to what a speculation and discussion forum is for? Putting forth a few sentences of theory based on the limited information available hardly sounds like fan fiction to me.]



You cited the threads I mentioned as specific examples of speculation done wrong? After discussion between the McCalls about Agent McCall’s drinking and his obvious embarrassment about whatever transpired [with Stiles, etc], I proposed on the What is Agent McCall’s Secret string that he may have been abusive [to Scott’s Mom] when he was drunk. Based upon discussion on the show, I figured she shared this with Sheriff Stilinski [which Stiles heard] and so sent Agent McCall away. When it was said on the by the Nogitsuno Scott would hate her too if he found out the secret, that muddied my theory so I figured unless Scott would hate her for sending his father away and never telling him it must be something much more extreme. Discussing possible theories based upon what is clear [I am not including the apparent Foxtino definition of what’s clear] is nothing if not pure speculation based on the available information and in no way tantamount to fan fiction.



Based on last night’s episode, the actual truth seems to be fairly close to the put forth speculation [didn’t account for the new information variation of Scott not remembering so he was the one “abused” by the drunken McCall not the mother]. But even if it wasn’t close to the truth, that would in way invalidate the speculation and theories based on the available information presented on the show. It was a discussion between people excited about the show – they weren’t crafting fiction. They were guessing what the “reveal” would be based upon the information available. Now, after discussing and proposing theories with others that care about the show, last night we learned [at least part of] the truth.



You obviously appreciate the show just like a lot of people that participate on the forum. I’m glad you started/ manage this wiki. As I mentioned this is my first time participating on a wiki. I hope this is not just a place for the elitist Teen Wolf watcher who “knows better” than most and can remember ever show fact without even having to re-watch or be reminded sometimes. Some theories are obviously more along the outlandish or inconsistent spectrum than others. But others are put forth by those who seriously enjoy the show and think through their discussion and points with care.



Your changing the forum name to Complete B.S. and indicating people are just making stuff up isn’t quite the same as you taking your ball and going home but, IMO, it does amount to a little bit of temper tantrum because everyone isn’t playing exactly as you would like them to. The name change is condescending to those who actually take the time and care. The board seems to be a General Discussion, Theories and Speculations board. No more. No Less.