Board Thread:WARNING ALL USERS False Info\Spoilers/@comment-37.24.148.3-20130801173359/@comment-11533671-20130802154109

BoricuaWolf wrote: Jestermonkey4u wrote:

We know that Ennis had just lost a beta when he is approached to turn Paige. By this we can safely assume that this story takes place at the same time that Ennis and all the Alphas, along with their Betas, meet with Talia to discuss Ennis declaring his vengeance. Deucalion at this point isn't an evil guy at all. In fact, he is more like Scott. He even talks about how just because they are werewolves and beastial that it doesn't replace evolution. He is basically saying that they are better than their beastial sides and to give in to that primal nature is sort of taking a step back in intellectual and social progress.

By his argument we can surmise that he has no reason to attack an Argent as of yet, because he even cautions that attacking them would lead to war and that an eye for an eye mentality will only lead to such a war. He proposes to meet with Gerard in order to come to a peaceful solution. This is when Gerard attacks him, leaving him blind. Since Alex Argent is bitten by Deucalion in 1977 then what other time could all of this had taken place in? Deucalion wouldn't have bitten Alex had he not been attacked by Gerard. He wouldn't have been attacked by Gerard had Ennis not lost a Beta. Ennis wouldn't be as approachable to turn Paige had he not just lost a Beta. What other conclusion can there be other than that they take place in or about the same year OR earlier? If you follow the events logically then what other time can you arrive at?

I’m going to have to disagree with your logic being absolute here. You could definitely be correct. However, it’s just speculation and not based on what we’ve seen. The episode does show us that Deucalion’s blinding and Paige’s death happened at the same time, but we don’t have any information to make us believe that all of this was in 77. Here’s why I think it was actually 10-15 years ago and that Derek is 25-30. The main reason is Dr. Deaton. He is in the story and is definitely an adult. We have not been presented any information to think that Druids age slowly. With Deaton being at LEAST 20 (more likely 30) in 77 that would make him at least 56 (and probably closer to 66) now. I don’t think he is.

I think you’re missing one huge problem in assuming that Alex Argent was bit after Deuc became blind and evil. It’s entirely possible that you’re right about that, but here’s another scenario that’s equally plausible. Even though Deuc was a good guy at the time, the Argents are hunters. Even a good guy will defend himself if attacked. So maybe Alex Argent was hunting Deuc and his pack. Also wouldn’t it make sense that maybe Gerard blinded Deuc in retaliation for the bite?

Like I said at the beginning you could TOTATLLY be right about everything happening in 77, but I don’t think we can be sure just yet. So I wouldn’t take it for granted.

As for the comments about the Hale fire, it has nothing to do with Paige. If the Alpha Meeting/Paige story did happen 10-15 years ago, then it could have been Paige that was found in the woods slashed up and she could be Jane Doe/Jennifer/The Darach (not saying that she is just that she could be). The fire then would have happened 4-9 years after that, and one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. On the other hand if The Alpha Meeting/Paige story happened in 77 or slightly before (which is possible, but I’m just not convinced). Then Jane Doe/Jennifer/The Darach cannot be Paige.

We should all keep in mind that Jeff Davis has had to evolve the timeline as he goes. It’s entirely possible that the timeline doesn’t remain static and he might have to adjust things as he develops the story. EG the Hale fire going from “like 10 years ago” in season 1 to being 7 years ago now.

I think most people are forgetting about the Hunter's code. Gerard is the only one that  doesn't follow this but basically the Hunters do NOT hunt or go after the werewolves UNLESS there has been a werewolf killing. Deucalion isn't being hunted and has given no indication that he was involved with the Argents at all, prefering NOT to entice them. The hunters in the episode that almost had Derek were out hunting Ennis because of his Beta killing someone. Also, Deucalion is very wary of the Argent's so I doubt he would have bitten one knowing that they are a family of hunters. The Hunter's Code is also another reason why I place Alex's bite as a revenge one. There was absolutely NO other reason for Deucalion to attack anyone and again, he wasn't being hunted or sought after.